# Planning for a ruby project as a Student... Read here

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**Created:** [February 17, 2008, 2:11pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/planning-for-a-ruby-project-as-a-student-read-here/129357 "2008-02-17T14:11:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![softmind](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/8baadc/32.png) [@softmind](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/softmind)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2008, 2:11pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/planning-for-a-ruby-project-as-a-student-read-here/129357/1 "2008-02-17T14:11:17Z")

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Hi,

I just read a very good real life blog based on ruby here…

It warns a Ruby student undertaking a web based project or assignment

Planning for a ruby project as a Student… Read here  
[http://ironruby.blogspot.com/2008/02/are-we-pampering-or-killing-ruby.html](http://ironruby.blogspot.com/2008/02/are-we-pampering-or-killing-ruby.html)

Do read the comments as well.

Finally… I am not the only one, who could not get any Ruby Scripts to  
study and extend except the Blogs Tutorials floating here and there.

Just my 2 cents for your information.

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**Author:** ![softmind](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/8baadc/32.png) [@softmind](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/softmind)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2008, 9:05pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/planning-for-a-ruby-project-as-a-student-read-here/129357/2 "2008-02-17T21:05:22Z")

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Softmind T. wrote:

> Finally… I am not the only one, who could not get any Ruby Scripts to  
> study and extend except the Blogs Tutorials floating here and there.
> 
> Just my 2 cents for your information.

What kind of scripts did you look for which you could not find?

- Blog tutorials are actually a great source for focused learning
- If blogs fail you, there are now a number of commercial books about  
Ruby and Rails.
- If commercial books don’t suit you, there are a few free books about  
Ruby and Rails
- There are the Ruby quizzes that handle a lot of current stuff
- and if you’re willing to search a mailing list, this one and the Rails  
one gets enough and more traffic of actual working scripts.

I’m not sure what you couldn’t find to study? There are a number of  
Rails & Ruby plugins, gems, etc. that are (naturally) available as  
source and could serve as a very good guide to self-study. What did you  
not find?

Anyway, I’m sure there are people making money off Ruby. I’ve done  
implementations in days that would take me much much longer. I’ve been  
able to leverage on my Ruby skills for desktop, server scripts and Rails  
websites - it works for me. I have found a warm, embracing community  
that has helped me grow.

I don’t feel the need to push Ruby. I think programming is all about  
finding what works for you. If it doesn’t work for you, you shouldn’t  
invest time in it. There’s no need to push Ruby. Ruby is not a  
monopoly - so, you don’t have to worry about not being able to feed your  
kids if you don’t know Ruby.

On the other hand, if Ruby was insignificant, Sun (with JRuby) and  
Microsoft (with IronRuby) would not waste their time and money. There  
must be something right about Ruby for them to bother.

I don’t feel the need to say ‘Ruby rocks!’ or something like that. My  
productivity at work speaks for itself. If you’re not getting  
productivity, it’s fine - perhaps, you’re better programming in another  
language. Part of being a good programmer is being able to identify the  
shortcomings and benefits of different languages.

Go forth and learn something that helps you! It doesn’t have to be  
Ruby. We’re not here trying to count up numbers to say that we have a  
large following. We’re mostly happy to say that we got _our_ work done

- on time, on budget and without losing our happiness over it! If it  
works for you, joy! If it doesn’t, sorry!

Cheers,  
Mohit.  
2/18/2008 | 4:02 AM.

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**Author:** ![softmind](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/8baadc/32.png) [@softmind](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/softmind)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2008, 9:21pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/planning-for-a-ruby-project-as-a-student-read-here/129357/3 "2008-02-17T21:21:59Z")

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Softmind T. wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I just read a very good real life blog based on ruby here…
> 
> It warns a Ruby student undertaking a web based project or assignment
> 
> Planning for a ruby project as a Student… Read here  
> [http://ironruby.blogspot.com/2008/02/are-we-pampering-or-killing-ruby.html](http://ironruby.blogspot.com/2008/02/are-we-pampering-or-killing-ruby.html)

> Do read the comments as well.
> 
> Finally… I am not the only one, who could not get any Ruby Scripts to  
> study and extend except the Blogs Tutorials floating here and there.
> 
> Just my 2 cents for your information.

Is this Troll Week or something?

Please do not reply to me.

🙂

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**Author:** ![softmind](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/8baadc/32.png) [@softmind](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/softmind)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2008, 12:20am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/planning-for-a-ruby-project-as-a-student-read-here/129357/4 "2008-02-18T00:20:17Z")

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If I Google “ruby example” or “rails example” I get plenty of good  
information. I’ve put out a free Ruby book, there are others, there  
are free tutorials, tons of open source stuff to poke at on Rubyforge,  
IRC channels, forums, the ML (which you’ve obviously found), books you  
can get for cheap off ABE/Amazon/eBay, pay $40 for O’Reilly Safari and  
get access to all the books you want, go to a local Ruby users  
group…

Are you telling me you’ve done all this? (Mostly directed at the blog  
author I guess)

Don’t blame the Ruby community for laziness, please.

–Jeremy

On Feb 17, 2008 8:11 AM, Softmind T.  
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> Finally… I am not the only one, who could not get any Ruby Scripts to  
> study and extend except the Blogs Tutorials floating here and there.
> 
> ## Just my 2 cents for your information.
> 
> Posted via [http://www.ruby-forum.com/](http://www.ruby-forum.com/).

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