# PHP -\> Ruby On Rails: advice wanted on customer management ( dns / email ) **URL:** \ **Category:** Rails\ **Created:** [February 9, 2010, 9:47am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/php-ruby-on-rails-advice-wanted-on-customer-management-dns-email/183161 "2010-02-09T09:47:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![rubybox](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/85e7bf/32.png) [@rubybox](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/rubybox)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2010, 9:47am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/php-ruby-on-rails-advice-wanted-on-customer-management-dns-email/183161/1 "2010-02-09T09:47:18Z")
Ive searched this group and google Groups and hope this topic will get approved since ruby on rails tak seems the only place I could ask. CURRENT SITUATION: Currently Im using a Plesk, PHP, Ruby Enterprise VPS with the plesk for managing customers ( email, passwords, etc ) Mainly all my websites use a custom account for each customer with its own /httpdocs to serve the php files from ( Wordpress ) customers do not have ftp access and don’t need them, they only edit there websites true the wordpress modified CMS we use. WANTED SITUATION I currently investigate in migrating all this to Radiant with the Multisite Extension. Since I want to dish and leave PHP behind me after falling in love with ROR. It seems like a great solution to have a central radiant based CMS solution but then there is the problem ! FACING PROBLEMS, ADVICE? We need a solution to manage customers, create email accounts for them and host this on the server. We need a way to easily manage customers, adding emails hosting those mailboxes, with spamassasin and preferreable some config panel ( replacing plesk ) to mangage the server backups, clients, email accounts and other settings. Is there a solution for this? Ive searched high and low but found no solution for this yet. Advice on above would be higly appreciated. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![rubybox](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/85e7bf/32.png) [@rubybox](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/rubybox)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2010, 10:22am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/php-ruby-on-rails-advice-wanted-on-customer-management-dns-email/183161/2 "2010-02-09T10:22:26Z")
On 09 Feb 2010, at 09:45, rubybox wrote: > Multisite Extension. Since I want to dish and leave PHP behind me > clients, email accounts and other settings. > > Is there a solution for this? Ive searched high and low but found no > solution for this yet. > Advice on above would be higly appreciated. Thank you. Why would you need to give up Plesk for that? It’s just a matter of pointing to the same Radiant in the vhost.conf file if you use Passenger. Everything else just stays the way it is. DocumentRoot /var/www/vhosts/mydomain.com/path/to/rails/app/public No matter how much disadvantages and quirks I think Plesk and cPanel have, if you want to provide your customer with a fancy pancy control panel that they can understand and you can manage easily, using either one of those is a necessary evil. Best regards Peter De Berdt ---
**Author:** ![rubybox](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/85e7bf/32.png) [@rubybox](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/rubybox)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2010, 11:42am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/php-ruby-on-rails-advice-wanted-on-customer-management-dns-email/183161/3 "2010-02-09T11:42:02Z")
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**Author:** ![rubybox](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/85e7bf/32.png) [@rubybox](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/rubybox)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2010, 1:12pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/php-ruby-on-rails-advice-wanted-on-customer-management-dns-email/183161/4 "2010-02-09T13:12:10Z")
> No matter how much disadvantages and quirks I think Plesk and cPanel > have, if you want to provide your customer with a fancy pancy control > panel that they can understand and you can manage easily, using either > one of those is a necessary evil. > > Best regards > > Peter De Berdt I use plesk only myself, customers have no panel access. I create domains and emails for them. So Plesk should go… It costs me around 120 EUR extra each year and Its not that great, If only I do is creating ruby apps I wont need the creation of database with plesk, i can do all from command line. A simple panel to create some users and email accounts would be nice though. Heroku does not support this I believe do you know a good ruby hoster that does this? ---
**Author:** ![rubybox](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/85e7bf/32.png) [@rubybox](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/rubybox)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2010, 1:39pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/php-ruby-on-rails-advice-wanted-on-customer-management-dns-email/183161/5 "2010-02-09T13:39:41Z")
On 09 Feb 2010, at 13:10, rubybox wrote: > I use plesk only myself, customers have no panel access. I create > domains and emails for them. > So Plesk should go… It costs me around 120 EUR extra each year and > Its not that great, > If only I do is creating ruby apps I wont need the creation of > database with plesk, i can do all from command line. > > A simple panel to create some users and email accounts would be nice > though. > Heroku does not support this I believe do you know a good ruby hoster > that does this? Well, if you want it to be free, you can just take Webmin and/or Virtualmin ([http://www.webmin.com/](http://www.webmin.com/)). It’s not as userfriendly, but it does just about everything you can imagine through a web interface. Some more alternatives are highlighted here: [http://lordmatt.co.uk/item/966/](http://lordmatt.co.uk/item/966/) Best regards Peter De Berdt ---
**Author:** ![rubybox](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/85e7bf/32.png) [@rubybox](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/rubybox)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2010, 2:10pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/php-ruby-on-rails-advice-wanted-on-customer-management-dns-email/183161/6 "2010-02-09T14:10:43Z")
rubybox wrote: > > No matter how much disadvantages and quirks I think Plesk and cPanel � > > have, if you want to provide your customer with a fancy pancy control � > > panel that they can understand and you can manage easily, using either � > > one of those is a necessary evil. > > > > Best regards > > > > Peter De Berdt > > I use plesk only myself, customers have no panel access. I create > domains and emails for them. > So Plesk should go… It costs me around 120 EUR extra each year and > Its not that great, > If only I do is creating ruby apps I wont need the creation of > database with plesk, i can do all from command line. How about Webmin, then? Best, – Marnen Laibow-Koser [http://www.marnen.org](http://www.marnen.org) removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid