# Payment integration - ePDQ and Protx **URL:** \ **Category:** Rails\ **Created:** [October 2, 2006, 3:10pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/payment-integration-epdq-and-protx/70739 "2006-10-02T15:10:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Gareth\_A](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Gareth\_A](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Gareth_A)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2006, 3:10pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/payment-integration-epdq-and-protx/70739/1 "2006-10-02T15:10:54Z")
Hi guys, We’re looking to set up payment integration using one of these two gateways - has anyone worked with these and has some pre-written classes/plugins for either of them? If not, has anyone worked with them and found them easy to work with? Thanks, Gareth ---
**Author:** ![Gareth\_A](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Gareth\_A](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Gareth_A)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2006, 8:19pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/payment-integration-epdq-and-protx/70739/2 "2006-10-02T20:19:44Z")
Gareth A. wrote: > Hi guys, > > We’re looking to set up payment integration using one of these two gateways - > has anyone worked with these and has some pre-written classes/plugins for either > of them? I’m also interested in Protx integration. I use it statically with my current site and it seems pretty decent for the price, but their site does get slow during heavy usage periods There are a number of easy to use solutions to plug in the forms based authentication, but really it’s the proper API integration which is needed. I think most of these systems work pretty much the same behind the scenes and it shouldn’t be a problem to add either some custom integration or add support to that rails payment gateways gem (whatever it’s called?) The main work is just making sure that your DB is setup so that it can handle the multi-state transitions which occur during the customer visiting the Protx pages - essentially it’s something like: - Create an Order here - Send the Order id, plus price plus address details to Protx - Hope the customer finishes the transaction… - New call to your system from Protx saying that everything was fine, whereupon you double check all the details and the transaction is finalised. - Customer returns and you tell them the order was completed ok … time passes… - Possibly customer does not complete order so you have to cleanup part complete orders from the DB I think all the main systems use roughly this model though? Ed W ---
**Author:** ![Gareth\_A](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Gareth\_A](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Gareth_A)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2006, 9:05pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/payment-integration-epdq-and-protx/70739/3 "2006-10-02T21:05:51Z")
> If not, has anyone worked with them and found them easy to work with? > I’ve carried out 2 epdq integrations and found them a nightmare to > work with. This mainly because their systems seem to be behind > everyone else, despite being Barclays. The main issues are with > testing in that you can’t :0) I’ve spoken to epdq on a number of > occasions and basically, and account can be in test mode of live > mode. If it’s in test mode you can only test successful transactions - not very useful. You also get issues when you want to test a new piece of functionality with them - they do not have test accounts and you cannot use the live mode account. Other people may have had a better experience, but I’ve worked with loads of payment gateways and none of them annoy me more than ePDQ. ProTx on the other hand are much better. I’ve used them on a few sites and have found them quite good. They offer a few different types of integration and clients seem to like their pricing structure. The support is good and they allow you fully test the integration. You either send the customer to them for clearance or you can take the card details on your secure server and communicate with ProTx server-side - this is good for larger sites. They allow you to do all transaction like refunds, releases and deferred payments using their server-side API. Another company I’ve had no problems with is secure hosting ([www.securehosting.com](http://www.securehosting.com)). They offer similar services to ProTx. Unfortuantly the integrations I’ve done with these companies are all PHP based so I cannot provide code. However, it’s very simple to integrate into payment providers. At the very basic level, you construct the form to send the customer to the gateway, and then receive a callback to confirm the status of the payment. Hope that helps, Steve ---
**Author:** ![Gareth\_A](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Gareth\_A](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Gareth_A)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2006, 12:46am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/payment-integration-epdq-and-protx/70739/4 "2006-10-03T00:46:18Z")
Stephen B. \ writes: > […snip…] > > Hope that helps, > > Steve Thanks Steve, that’s exactly what I was looking for. Our client wants skinned payment pages so we’re having to go with the API option, and the Barclays API document is 774 pages! We (well, other people at our company) have used Protx before in ASP pages, and found it reasonably easy - I think it’s likely that we’ll go down that route Any more opinions would still be welcome, of course Gareth ---
**Author:** ![Gareth\_A](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Gareth\_A](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Gareth_A)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2006, 3:47pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/payment-integration-epdq-and-protx/70739/5 "2006-10-03T15:47:44Z")
> The reason you don’t see as many payment gateways in Europe is because > the companies that control access to the banking networks limit that > access by charging huge fees and doing everything they can to keep the > number of payment gateways to a bare minimum. (…) > And if you are a UK business you can’t just use > a US payment gateway with your UK merchant account because > Visa/Mastercard rules prohibit what they call cross border acquiring. Do you by chance know of some european payment gateways, that are worth recommending? I am developing a site for a Germany-based company and there seem to be few alternatives to PayPal. ---
**Author:** ![Gareth\_A](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Gareth\_A](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Gareth_A)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2006, 12:48am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/payment-integration-epdq-and-protx/70739/6 "2006-10-03T00:48:18Z")
On 10/2/06, Stephen B. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > > If not, has anyone worked with them and found them easy to work with? > > I’ve carried out 2 epdq integrations and found them a nightmare to > > work with. This mainly because their systems seem to be behind > > everyone else, despite being Barclays. The reason you don’t see as many payment gateways in Europe is because the companies that control access to the banking networks limit that access by charging huge fees and doing everything they can to keep the number of payment gateways to a bare minimum. The existing players have no real incentive to be competitive, because they have very little competition. And if you are a UK business you can’t just use a US payment gateway with your UK merchant account because Visa/Mastercard rules prohibit what they call cross border acquiring. ---
**Author:** ![Gareth\_A](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Gareth\_A](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Gareth_A)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2006, 6:22pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/payment-integration-epdq-and-protx/70739/7 "2006-10-03T18:22:09Z")
Hi > Thanks Steve, that’s exactly what I was looking for. Our client wants skinned > payment pages so we’re having to go with the API option, and the Barclays API > document is 774 pages! You mention that you have used Protx before, so I guess you have some test accounts with them? You can “skin” the payment pages by emailing them the template that you want to use. There are some restrictions to prevent you abusing the system, but basically you can send them any HTML you like I think? This means that Protx can handle all the CC info without you needing to be get your site secure enough to be handling the CC transactions and passing them through (OK, I don’t quite mean it like it sounds) I have just used the standard form checkout pages, but I did skim through the customisation options and it looks quite straightforward. I guess consider this a thumbs up to Protx - nice pricing options as well, but you need to check with them that they handle your CC processor before doing any of the really advanced stuff. I asked about stuff like continuous authority transactions and the like and they only support it with certain banks. Incidently anyone can sign up for a test account with them and they will let you play around with the system without needing a CC processing account. Their signup screens are broken when using firefox though… IE only… Note: I found it easier to choose a payment processor first and then choose a supported bank for the CC second. The former does seem to constrain the latter though… Ed W ---
**Author:** ![Gareth\_A](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Gareth\_A](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Gareth_A)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2006, 11:40pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/payment-integration-epdq-and-protx/70739/8 "2006-10-13T23:40:14Z")
Hi there i had done the Epdq payment Gate way integration and it is up and running if you have any project please let me know. and i am expert for that. you can contact me :- Syed Hussain removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid Phone No:- 07877622065. 07738943716. Gareth A. wrote: > Hi guys, > > We’re looking to set up payment integration using one of these two > gateways - > has anyone worked with these and has some pre-written classes/plugins > for either > of them? > > If not, has anyone worked with them and found them easy to work with? > > Thanks, > Gareth