# :path\_prefix on resources not passing to actions? **URL:** \ **Category:** Rails\ **Created:** [July 28, 2008, 10:00am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/path-prefix-on-resources-not-passing-to-actions/144290 "2008-07-28T10:00:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![phil](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/e95f7d/32.png) [@phil](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/phil)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2008, 10:00am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/path-prefix-on-resources-not-passing-to-actions/144290/1 "2008-07-28T10:00:30Z")
I am experiencing some difficulties using :path\_prefix on resources. I do the following $ rails pathtest $ cd pathtest $ script/generate scaffold thing title:string $ rake db:migrate Then in routes.rb I change: map.resources :things to map.resources :things, :path\_prefix =\> ‘:blah’ And doing a rake routes I get the following: things GET /:blah/things {:action=\>“index”, :controller=\>“things”} formatted\_things GET /:blah/things.:format {:action=\>“index”, :controller=\>“things”} POST /:blah/things {:action=\>“create”, :controller=\>“things”} POST /:blah/things.:format {:action=\>“create”, :controller=\>“things”} new\_thing GET /:blah/things/new {:action=\>“new”, :controller=\>“things”} formatted\_new\_thing GET /:blah/things/new.:format {:action=\>“new”, :controller=\>“things”} edit\_thing GET /:blah/things/:id/edit {:action=\>“edit”, :controller=\>“things”} formatted\_edit\_thing GET /:blah/things/:id/edit.:format {:action=\>“edit”, :controller=\>“things”} thing GET /:blah/things/:id {:action=\>“show”, :controller=\>“things”} formatted\_thing GET /:blah/things/:id.:format {:action=\>“show”, :controller=\>“things”} PUT /:blah/things/:id {:action=\>“update”, :controller=\>“things”} PUT /:blah/things/:id.:format {:action=\>“update”, :controller=\>“things”} DELETE /:blah/things/:id {:action=\>“destroy”, :controller=\>“things”} DELETE /:blah/things/:id.:format {:action=\>“destroy”, :controller=\>“things”} /:controller/:action/:id /:controller/:action/:id.:format But… got to localhost:3000/my/things works fine. I create a new thing. Then I get this error: thing\_url failed to generate from {:action=\>“show”, :blah=\>#\, :controller=\>“things”}, expected: {:action=\>“show”, :controller=\>“things”}, diff: {:blah=\>#\} And I can no longer go to /my/things because of that error. It seems that when it is trying to create (eval):17:in `thing\_path’ the :blah value is not being set. I have to edit all my views to do this: ``` <%= link_to 'Show', thing_path(params[:blah], thing) %> ``` instead of \<%= link\_to ‘Show’, thing %\> I think this is a bug in rails… or am I misunderstanding how this should work? ---
**Author:** ![phil](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/e95f7d/32.png) [@phil](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/phil)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2008, 2:15pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/path-prefix-on-resources-not-passing-to-actions/144290/2 "2008-07-28T14:15:58Z")
Hi – On Mon, 28 Jul 2008, phil wrote: > map.resources :things > to > map.resources :things, :path\_prefix =\> ‘:blah’ > > And doing a rake routes I get the following: > [snip] > > I think this is a bug in rails… or am I misunderstanding how this > should work? You’re misunderstanding how it should work. It’s certainly not a bug in Rails; the routing system may have bugs, but not at this basic level. The problem, as it seems to be so often these days, is that you’re using the scaffolding and then being surprised when it turns out you actually have to write code. The scaffolding is just a demo. I don’t mean to pounce on you about this. There’s a lot of scaffolding around these days, it seems, and therefore a lot of questions about how to solve the problems it creates. The best thing to do is to forget the scaffolding and study the routing system, and the other systems in Rails, directly. Anyway – if you’ve got a resource route that looks like this: /:blah/things/:id then with the GET request method it will go to the show action. But it needs some way to fill in everything in the route string. It tries to do this from the arguments to the named route. The first thing it does is fill in the :blah field. If the only argument to the named route is a Thing object, then it assigns that object to :blah – and then it’s run out of arguments, so it can’t figure out what :id is supposed to be. (The error messages on this stuff are a little hard to decipher, since they might lead you to believe that it doesn’t want a :blah value. But it does; it just doesn’t have enough to do the whole path.) That’s why you need two arguments: thing\_path(“my”, @thing) or equivalent. David – Rails training from David A. Black and Ruby Power and Light: - Advancing With Rails August 18-21 Edison, NJ - Co-taught by D.A. Black and Erik Kastner See [http://www.rubypal.com](http://www.rubypal.com) for details and updates! ---
**Author:** ![phil](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/e95f7d/32.png) [@phil](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/phil)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2008, 2:28pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/path-prefix-on-resources-not-passing-to-actions/144290/3 "2008-07-28T14:28:53Z")
Ok…fair enough. I guess I didn’t expect when I added a path\_prefix to have to change every link in my code! I guess I am surprised because it does pass through the :blah value to certain links, but not to the resource links. For instance on the (yes, scaffold generated!) pages the links to /things will automatically be updated to have my/things. It is this inconsistent behaviour that I am questioning - the fact that the plurals calls DO update and the singular calls don’t. For example: \<%= link\_to ‘Back’, things\_path %\> On the page /my/things/new Will generate a link like this: [http://localhost:3000/my/things](http://localhost:3000/my/things) and indeed the form action will be: So the problem seems to be a) in singular routes and b) with path\_prefixes with variables because if your routes looks like: map.resources :things, :path\_prefix =\> “my” Then everything works a treat. ---
**Author:** ![phil](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/e95f7d/32.png) [@phil](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/phil)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2008, 5:06pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/path-prefix-on-resources-not-passing-to-actions/144290/4 "2008-07-28T17:06:00Z")
Ok - you don’t HAVE to be condescending you know! I am familiar with routing, it is this particular area (path\_prefix) I find to be completely undocumented as to how it works (I sense another condescending post from you telling me its not). I appreciate that you are trying to post a lot to look knowledgeable so that people can pay a lot of money to have you read Agile Web D. With Rails to them. Anyway, I have discovered in the code what I was looking for. ---
**Author:** ![phil](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/e95f7d/32.png) [@phil](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/phil)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2008, 2:45pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/path-prefix-on-resources-not-passing-to-actions/144290/5 "2008-07-28T14:45:53Z")
Hi – On Mon, 28 Jul 2008, phil wrote: > > > $ script/generate scaffold thing title:string > > > But… > > > It seems that when it is trying to create > > > should work? > > > around these days, it seems, and therefore a lot of questions about > > > do this from the arguments to the named route. The first thing it does > > automatically be updated to have my/things. It is this inconsistent > and indeed the form action will be: > > So the problem seems to be a) in singular routes and b) with > path\_prefixes with variables because if your routes looks like: > map.resources :things, :path\_prefix =\> “my” > > Then everything works a treat. The behavior isn’t inconsistent with the documented rules of the routing system. The plural one – the “Back” link that shows “/my/things” – uses the method things\_path. That method also requires a :blah value. It defaults to the existing :blah value. The reason that doesn’t work with the other ones is because of the following rule: Given a named route like this: ``` something_path ':x/:y/:z' ``` x, y, and z will default to whatever they were on the last response, _unless_ you override any one of them. If you override any of them, then that one _and all to the right of it_ will not default. things\_path doesn’t override anything, so it takes the :blah value from the last response (“my”). However, thing\_path(@thing) (or equivalent) _does_ override the :blah value, since it assumes that its first argument is meant to populate the :blah field. So all bets are off. By the same token, if you do this in the index view: \<%= link\_to 'Show', thing\_path(:id =\> thing) %\> you’ll find that :blah defaults to “my” (or whatever it was coming in). That’s because you’re explicitly using thing for the :id field (which, by the way, it will populate by calling the method to\_params on thing). Since the :id field is to the right of the :blah field in the route string (“:blah/things/:id”), it fills in the :blah field with the existing value. As I said, the best thing is to actually study the routing system 🙂 It all really does make sense, and at some point you’re going to need to know how it thinks in order both to solve problems and to get the most out of it. David – Rails training from David A. Black and Ruby Power and Light: - Advancing With Rails August 18-21 Edison, NJ - Co-taught by D.A. Black and Erik Kastner See [http://www.rubypal.com](http://www.rubypal.com) for details and updates! ---
**Author:** ![phil](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/e95f7d/32.png) [@phil](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/phil)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2008, 5:52pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/path-prefix-on-resources-not-passing-to-actions/144290/6 "2008-07-28T17:52:56Z")
Uh, I don’t think he was being condescending. I think he was being really helpful. I’m not sure why you’re being so defensive about someone answering your rather entry level question. It’s entirely likely it is undocumented. But other people apparently understand how it works, so it’s apparently not so obtuse that it can’t be understood. Perhaps reading the code wouldn’t cause you too much pain? People do add inline comments sometimes. Or maybe reading a book? According to O’Reilly Safari, it’s documented in no less than three books, including David’s eBook on routing (of course, reading that would be one protracted condescension, though, right?). And those are just the ones that I could find by doing a simple search. Even so, if you’re “familiar with routing,” path\_prefix works EXACTLY like any other wildcard value. I find it VERY hard to believe that you’re “familiar” routing and don’t get that wildcard values require value in route generation. If you had something like: ``` map.thing ":a/:b/:c" ``` You couldn’t expect to do “thing\_path” and have it generate a URL. Next time you decide to be a prick, please do it someone else other than someone who’s helping you (and has spent a TON of time helping others). –Jeremy On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 10:05 AM, phil [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > Anyway, I have discovered in the code what I was looking for. > > > – [http://jeremymcanally.com/](http://jeremymcanally.com/) [http://entp.com/](http://entp.com/) > **[Omg GIFs | GIFDB.com](https://gifdb.com/omg)** > > Download Omg GIFs for Free on GifDB. More than 56 Omg Animated GIFs to download. My books: > **[Ruby in Practice](https://www.manning.com/books/ruby-in-practice)** > > Like Ruby itself, Ruby in Practice will make you more productive. The book shows you practical techniques and strategies for small projects and large-scale environments. A cookbook-style reference, it gives you concrete examples of systems... [http://humblelittlerubybook.com/](http://humblelittlerubybook.com/) (FREE!) ---
**Author:** ![phil](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/e95f7d/32.png) [@phil](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/phil)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2008, 6:45pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/path-prefix-on-resources-not-passing-to-actions/144290/7 "2008-07-28T18:45:05Z")
David, I really admire your professionalism. That was quite an underhanded character snipe but you handled it gracefully. phil, Shame on you. David is one of the nicest and most knowledgeable people you will meet in the Ruby community. I think he was being helpful above and beyond the call without even a hint of condescension, taking his time to give you a careful and complete answer. How dare you attack his professional ethics! Not only are you potentially liable for slander for what you said, it’s just plain childish and hateful. You’re lucky that David is a nice guy or you might very well have gotten sued. I hope that everyone who comes here to ask for help (which is everyone) will keep in mind that the people that help you are doing so for your benefit, and that how you treat them will determine the amount of help you (and everyone else) will receive from them in the future. There is never, ever any call for this sort of behavior. I hope that everyone who comes here to offer help will keep in mind that most people are not as rude and ungrateful as phil. We do appreciate your help! Remember: We Are Nice Because Matz Is Nice. Be nice! Best, Rein H. Hashrocket [reinh.com](http://reinh.com) ---
**Author:** ![phil](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/e95f7d/32.png) [@phil](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/phil)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2008, 12:38am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/path-prefix-on-resources-not-passing-to-actions/144290/8 "2008-07-30T00:38:24Z")
You’re both right, I apologize. I personally don’t think David’s email was that helpful - or that the question was ‘entry level’. But c’est la vie. I should not have reacted so, and you are right to call me on it. FWIW, I have made an interesting change to the way polymorphic\_path works that actually lets rails behave as I thought it should (by passing those path\_prefix’s down to the singular resources below). I’ve seen a few postings on here and other places about people suffering the same problems as I. So - it all seems to have worked out in the end. Again, sorry for the bruised ego’s. ---
**Author:** ![phil](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/e95f7d/32.png) [@phil](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/phil)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2008, 6:09pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/path-prefix-on-resources-not-passing-to-actions/144290/9 "2008-07-28T18:09:20Z")
Hi – On Mon, 28 Jul 2008, phil wrote: > Ok - you don’t HAVE to be condescending you know! > > I am familiar with routing, it is this particular area (path\_prefix) I > find to be completely undocumented as to how it works (I sense another > condescending post from you telling me its not). I appreciate that you > are trying to post a lot to look knowledgeable so that people can pay > a lot of money to have you read Agile Web D. With Rails to > them. Please don’t publicly attack my classroom skills, professionalism, or ethics, all of which are demonstrably quite sound. I answer questions on mailing lists and other forums principally for two reasons: to help people (and I was doing it regularly, fifteen years before I started making my living from training and consulting), and to educate myself. I’ve learned a ton by tracking down answers and puzzling things out away from the list. Just so you know: in order to help you with your question, I ran the commands you ran (creating the ‘pathtest’ Rails app and the scaffolding), migrated the database, opened the console and created a record, started the server, checked to see that I was getting the same results as you were, and went back in the console and did things like this for a while: > > app.thing\_path(:blah =\> “abc”) > > app.thing\_path(“abc”) > > app.thing\_path(“abc”, “def”) > > app.thing\_path(“my”, Thing.find(:first)) to make sure I understood what was going on and what was not working and why. Then I made manual changes to the scaffold views, so that I could verify that what I expected to happen would actually happen, and make sure that the advice and explanations I was planning to give you would be correct. Then I spent about 15 minutes composing an answer to you. None of this guarantees that my response will have helped you (though if you think these things are under-documented, I would have thought that getting an explanation would in fact have been helpful). But believe me, if I were going to condescend to you, I wouldn’t set aside a large chunk of my morning to do it. Now let’s get back to technical matters. David – Rails training from David A. Black and Ruby Power and Light: - Advancing With Rails August 18-21 Edison, NJ - Co-taught by D.A. Black and Erik Kastner See [http://www.rubypal.com](http://www.rubypal.com) for details and updates!