# Overlapping channels in polyphase channelizer

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**Created:** [June 19, 2015, 3:15am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/overlapping-channels-in-polyphase-channelizer/242367 "2015-06-19T03:15:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![musicdenotation](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/ea666f/32.png) [@musicdenotation](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/musicdenotation)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2015, 3:15am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/overlapping-channels-in-polyphase-channelizer/242367/1 "2015-06-19T03:15:34Z")

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Is it possible to have overlapping channels in a polyphase channelizer?  
say  
you have 10MHz of bandwidth, and you want to break it up into 10  
channels,  
each 2MHz wide with the center frequencies being 1MHz apart.

would you just set the taps to have the right bw and lowpass filter  
width  
(in this case it would be 1MHz to create a 2MHz channel), then set the  
number of outputs on the channelizer block in grc to be 10?

thanks,  
-b

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**Author:** ![ben\_Gee](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@ben\_Gee](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/ben_Gee)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2015, 6:58am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/overlapping-channels-in-polyphase-channelizer/242367/2 "2015-06-19T06:58:11Z")

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On Jun 18, 2015, at 6:14 PM, ben Gee  
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Is it possible to have overlapping channels in a polyphase channelizer?  
say you have 10MHz of bandwidth, and you want to break it up into 10  
channels, each 2MHz wide with the center frequencies being 1MHz apart.  
Hi Ben, perhaps this paper would be helpful.  
[http://static1.1.sqspcdn.com/static/f/679473/24573007/1395369129837/rondeau\_gr\_filtering.pdf?token=96KRK5gwTcSMhOfiIaaoFKDjZJk%3D](http://static1.1.sqspcdn.com/static/f/679473/24573007/1395369129837/rondeau_gr_filtering.pdf?token=96KRK5gwTcSMhOfiIaaoFKDjZJk%3D)[http://static1.1.sqspcdn.com/static/f/679473/24573007/1395369129837/rondeau\_gr\_filtering.pdf?token=96KRK5gwTcSMhOfiIaaoFKDjZJk=](http://static1.1.sqspcdn.com/static/f/679473/24573007/1395369129837/rondeau_gr_filtering.pdf?token=96KRK5gwTcSMhOfiIaaoFKDjZJk=)  
It describes a way to rig the filter in order to split a signal into  
channels using the polyphase channelizer so that no information is lost  
at the channel boundaries. You could use this technique to split your  
signal into 1 MHz segments and then join the 1 MHz segments together  
into the overlapping 2 MHz channels. Another thing that might work is to  
use two channelizer blocks, each generating five channels.

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**Author:** ![ben\_Gee](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@ben\_Gee](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/ben_Gee)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2015, 9:08am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/overlapping-channels-in-polyphase-channelizer/242367/3 "2015-06-19T09:08:25Z")

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Hi Ben,

yes, that should work; as you’ve guessed, the polyphase channelizer  
doesn’t really “care” what your filter looks like. That includes the  
band edges, too, so your last channel will overlap with your first.

Best regards,  
Marcus

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**Author:** ![ben\_Gee](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@ben\_Gee](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/ben_Gee)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2015, 3:18pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/overlapping-channels-in-polyphase-channelizer/242367/4 "2015-06-19T15:18:13Z")

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On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 3:07 AM, Marcus Müller  
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wrote:

> On 06/19/2015 03:14 AM, ben Gee wrote:  
> thanks,  
> -b

Also, look for the paper by harris and Rice, “Digital Receivers and  
Transmitters Using Polyphase Filter Banks for Wireless Communications.”  
There some good stuff in there about adjusting the bandwidth versus the  
sampling rate.

Tom
