# OT: Require e-mail during sign up process?

**URL:** <https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ot-require-e-mail-during-sign-up-process/59729>\
**Category:** Rails\
**Created:** [May 5, 2006, 8:56pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ot-require-e-mail-during-sign-up-process/59729 "2006-05-05T20:56:53Z")\
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**Post date:** [May 5, 2006, 8:56pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ot-require-e-mail-during-sign-up-process/59729/1 "2006-05-05T20:56:53Z")

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Sorry that this thread is a little off topic, but I’m looking for some  
varying opinions on the subject and I think this group has a breadth of  
experience on this matter 🙂

A little background info… the registration process for a web  
application I  
am developing will be targeting those ages 13+ with the bulk of the  
users  
being in the 13-25 age range. We are in the process of developing the  
sign  
up/registration and we’re run into a kink on our team on whether or not  
to  
require an e-mail address during the process. An argument for not  
requiring  
e-mail during registration within our team (one I am arguing against) is  
that not everybody has an e-mail address, so we shouldn’t require it.  
But,  
being in the MySpace generation, I’d imagine that the majority of this  
demographic have at least one e-mail address they check on occasion.  
However, I don’t have any hard stats on Internet users who don’t have  
e-mail, but I’d imagine it to be very low, but this is only a guess.

Now, I am curios on people’s thoughts on requiring or not requiring an  
e-mail address during the sign up process for a web application given  
the  
above demographic. I can see the pros for requiring one much more than  
the  
pros for not requiring one at all. I just see there being a nightmare if  
somebody forgets their password, their log in ID, or something else  
related  
to their account. Now, if we don’t require that e-mail address, they are  
in  
a tough spot since they have been locked out of their account. So, if  
they  
wanted back in, we don’t have a way to send them information to get  
information back. However, not requiring it… at least as far as I can  
tell  
only solves one thing, they don’t need an e-mail address. But, with  
e-mail  
being so ubiquitous now, is this even a problem? There are so many free  
e-mail hosts, Hotmail, Gmail, Yahoo, just to name a few, that I don’t  
really  
see this being a problem. Is requiring an e-mail address a barrier to an  
application’s adoption?

Any thoughts, examples, facts, you can provide are greatly appreciated.

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**Author:** ![parrfolio](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/47e85d/32.png) [@parrfolio](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/parrfolio)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2006, 9:06pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ot-require-e-mail-during-sign-up-process/59729/2 "2006-05-05T21:06:18Z")

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Keep the e-mail – if they have Internet access, they have an e-mail  
address.

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**Post date:** [May 5, 2006, 10:58pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ot-require-e-mail-during-sign-up-process/59729/3 "2006-05-05T22:58:27Z")

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How do you then deal with the situation where a parent doesn’t allow  
them to  
have an e-mail account? Keeping in mind that if this is a service that  
is  
provided by a class or something and they need to use it, can you get  
around  
not having an e-mail?

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**Author:** ![parrfolio](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/47e85d/32.png) [@parrfolio](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/parrfolio)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2006, 2:20am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/ot-require-e-mail-during-sign-up-process/59729/4 "2006-05-06T02:20:28Z")

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My nieces and nephews share an account with their families and I’m  
sure this is common practice for younger children. As for 13+ ? I’d  
wager that if pre-teens/teens can get their own phone lines, they can  
have their own email accounts.

However, you could fork your registration process into two paths: ask  
if they have an e-mail address first. If yes, go to normal  
registration. If no, display a message indicating that, “this site  
requires an e-mail address… privacy issues … we won’t sell it  
…etc.  
If you’re under age, please ask your parent or guardian for assistance  
with the registration process.”

If they don’t have an e-mail address or even access to  
“removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid” then they’re probably under supervision when  
they’re surfing the Net and Mom or Dad should be involved in the  
registration process anyways.

If you want proof, go to [Disney.com](http://Disney.com), [treehouse.com](http://treehouse.com), etc. and sign-up  
for some online games or newsletters and see how they interact with  
their users – they probably spent a few million on Usability  
Architects and Lawyers getting theirs up and running – why not hop on  
the bandwagon and milk it for free? 🙂
