# Onsite Training **URL:** \ **Category:** Ruby\ **Created:** [September 7, 2007, 10:05pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/onsite-training/114099 "2007-09-07T22:05:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![gawk007](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/97f17d/32.png) [@gawk007](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/gawk007)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2007, 10:05pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/onsite-training/114099/1 "2007-09-07T22:05:41Z")
We’re beginning to move to RoR and our company is offering to provide training (we have several years experience with mod\_perl and we’re doing new projects in RoR)…I know of Pragmatic’s courses. Are there any recommended onsite trainers? Checking options to bring someone in to our office as opposed to sending several programmers out of town. Thanks… ---
**Author:** ![gawk007](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/97f17d/32.png) [@gawk007](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/gawk007)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2007, 1:21am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/onsite-training/114099/2 "2007-09-08T01:21:01Z")
On Sep 7, 2007, at 3:05 PM, spariam wrote: > We’re beginning to move to RoR and our company is offering to provide > training (we have several years experience with mod\_perl and we’re > doing new projects in RoR)…I know of Pragmatic’s courses. Are there > any recommended onsite trainers? Checking options to bring someone in > to our office as opposed to sending several programmers out of town. > > Thanks… If you’ve got several years with mod\_perl, you’d probably save yourselves a load of money, just take a week away from everything else with a few good books. If you’ve got a group working on things together you’ll get it down in a month flat. Basic Rails is pretty simple once it sinks in. Save the training consultant for the more complicated stuff. ---
**Author:** ![gawk007](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/97f17d/32.png) [@gawk007](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/gawk007)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2007, 1:46am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/onsite-training/114099/3 "2007-09-08T01:46:03Z")
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 John J. wrote: > > > > If you’ve got several years with mod\_perl, you’d probably save > yourselves a load of money, just take a week away from everything else > with a few good books. If you’ve got a group working on things together > you’ll get it down in a month flat. > Basic Rails is pretty simple once it sinks in. Save the training > consultant for the more complicated stuff. I disagree with this point of view. I’m guessing there are budgets and deadlines – this is a corporate project, not something somebody is doing as a hobby or as an open source community thing. Get the training - – it’s worth every penny of it and probably will have a _major_ payback in terms of quality of your application and the speed at which you deliver it! I’m learning Ruby from books and from hands-on experience, but it’s not something I expect to use in my day job. If they asked me to become a Rails developer and offered formal training, I’d jump at the chance! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - [http://enigmail.mozdev.org](http://enigmail.mozdev.org) iD8DBQFG4eJR8fKMegVjSM8RApxRAJ0aDdHBkhNNeUd1+mYWZjoUFpDEMgCeKnh0 GEWXC5qPKCnFJsqqV0jADKY= =xLJU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ---
**Author:** ![gawk007](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/97f17d/32.png) [@gawk007](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/gawk007)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2007, 2:05am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/onsite-training/114099/4 "2007-09-08T02:05:05Z")
> Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - [http://enigmail.mozdev.org](http://enigmail.mozdev.org) > > iD8DBQFG4eLs8fKMegVjSM8RApGKAKDA94aMR/RsHtZf8d2O4HtYYaFdVwCfXhB/ > cZHMNAd0/JgS5gJJEtJIcoU= > =TJca > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- I use mod\_perl for the RT (Request Tracker) server we use for ticketing at work. I guess I just don’t like fastcgi all that much if there’s an alternative to use. We don’t run any Ruby for web code, so I have no experience with mod\_ruby. Felix ---
**Author:** ![gawk007](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/97f17d/32.png) [@gawk007](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/gawk007)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2007, 1:48am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/onsite-training/114099/5 "2007-09-08T01:48:03Z")
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote: > > > > > I disagree with this point of view. I’m guessing there are budgets and > deadlines – this is a corporate project, not something somebody is > doing as a hobby or as an open source community thing. Get the training > – it’s worth every penny of it and probably will have a _major_ payback > in terms of quality of your application and the speed at which you > deliver it! > > I’m learning Ruby from books and from hands-on experience, but it’s not > something I expect to use in my day job. If they asked me to become a > Rails developer and offered formal training, I’d jump at the chance! P.S.: Does anybody actually use “mod\_perl” any more? I thought “mod\_php” was the de-facto standard. Does anybody on this list use “mod\_ruby?” -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - [http://enigmail.mozdev.org](http://enigmail.mozdev.org) iD8DBQFG4eLs8fKMegVjSM8RApGKAKDA94aMR/RsHtZf8d2O4HtYYaFdVwCfXhB/ cZHMNAd0/JgS5gJJEtJIcoU= =TJca -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ---
**Author:** ![gawk007](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/97f17d/32.png) [@gawk007](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/gawk007)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2007, 2:06am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/onsite-training/114099/6 "2007-09-08T02:06:06Z")
Where is your company located? There is a site called “Working With Rails” [www.workingwithrails.com](http://www.workingwithrails.com) You may be able to find some Rails developers in your area, and just ask for a resume, Bring a rails developer on staff and have him give all the classes so your paying an employee and not a consultant. If your in the Las Vegas area, i’ll do it! 🙂 ~Jeremy ---
**Author:** ![gawk007](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/97f17d/32.png) [@gawk007](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/gawk007)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2007, 6:44am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/onsite-training/114099/7 "2007-09-08T06:44:24Z")
training: David Black does training, Relevance do training, and the Pragmatic Studios are EXCELLENT. [rubypal.com](http://rubypal.com), [relevancellc.com](http://relevancellc.com), and [pragmaticstudio.com](http://pragmaticstudio.com). mod\_perl tangent: Plenty of people still use mod\_perl. Think about it. Plenty of people still use COBOL. Of course mod\_perl is still around. – Giles B. Blog: [http://gilesbowkett.blogspot.com](http://gilesbowkett.blogspot.com) Portfolio: [http://www.gilesgoatboy.org](http://www.gilesgoatboy.org) Tumblelog: [http://giles.tumblr.com/](http://giles.tumblr.com/) ---
**Author:** ![gawk007](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/97f17d/32.png) [@gawk007](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/gawk007)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2007, 4:26pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/onsite-training/114099/8 "2007-09-08T16:26:11Z")
On Sep 8, 12:32 am, “M. Edward (Ed) Borasky” [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > > Plenty of people still use mod\_perl. Think about it. Plenty of people > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Thanks for the suggestions. A few of those I wasn’t aware of. ---
**Author:** ![gawk007](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/97f17d/32.png) [@gawk007](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/gawk007)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2007, 7:33am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/onsite-training/114099/9 "2007-09-08T07:33:26Z")
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Giles B. wrote: > training: > David Black does training, Relevance do training, and the Pragmatic > Studios are EXCELLENT. [rubypal.com](http://rubypal.com), [relevancellc.com](http://relevancellc.com), and > [pragmaticstudio.com](http://pragmaticstudio.com). > > mod\_perl tangent: > Plenty of people still use mod\_perl. Think about it. Plenty of people > still use COBOL. Of course mod\_perl is still around. Uh oh … I think I just invented MOD\_COBOL -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - [http://enigmail.mozdev.org](http://enigmail.mozdev.org) iD8DBQFG4jO/8fKMegVjSM8RAvgTAKCRSFuf3xLiVAcZrzKj6S3ICwGATQCfVtm5 cax04nzA/Au2PfmOgCMZcUs= =ffXc -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----