# NYC Ruby Job Fair =?iso-8859-1?q?=8B?= April 25th

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**Created:** [April 20, 2006, 7:14pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/nyc-ruby-job-fair-iso-8859-1-q-8b-april-25th/58345 "2006-04-20T19:14:45Z")\
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**Post date:** [April 20, 2006, 7:14pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/nyc-ruby-job-fair-iso-8859-1-q-8b-april-25th/58345/1 "2006-04-20T19:14:45Z")

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=== NYC Ruby Job Fair – April 25th

The NYC Ruby meetings lately have looked a lot like middle school  
dances.  
On one side of the room is people saying, “Gee, I wish I could work  
full-time doing Ruby or Ruby on Rails.” On the other side of the room  
are  
companies saying, “Wow, those Ruby people sure look cute, I wish they  
would  
all come work for me.” The music is playing, the love if flowing, but  
nobody’s dancing.

The April 25th meeting will be a Job Fair where companies or recruiters  
can  
feel safe to talk about what they need while Ruby aficionados can hand  
out  
resumes to try and get their dream gigs.

For this one night and one night only we will be sacrificing the  
non-profit  
purity of the Ruby community to the god of CASH. If you have a problem  
with  
this, then please don’t come. The next Ruby meeting will be the nice  
lovable communist group you remember. But April 25th is all about the  
greenbacks.

== The Location

If the group is small we’ll still have it at the EastMedia offices like  
normal. If the group is large we’ll be looking to move the meeting to a  
larger location near by. If we need a larger location then we may  
postpone  
the job fair until a later meeting so that we can get sponsorship.

== The Details

The general plan is to keep things loose and let companies or recruiters  
give a short pitch about what they need. After all the companies have  
talked about what they need we’ll have a 30 minute refreshments break  
where  
people interested in the company can give out their resume and chat  
further.

To keep things smooth we’ve come up with a few rules:

REPRESENTATIVES

1. There will be NO PROJECTOR. Last thing we want is a 30 minute power  
point. If you want to show people something then bring a laptop for  
after  
your presentation. There is wireless internet.
2. Try to keep your pitch quick and to the point and shoot for the  
softer  
sell.
3. Be prepared to answer some difficult technical questions and  
questions  
about the company. This especially applies to recruiters who are  
notorious  
for not being allowed to say anything about the company.
4. There will be a bunch of talk about Canada on Rails after the Job  
Fair.  
You may not be terribly interested in it, but if you’re serious about  
hiring  
a Ruby person you might want to stick around and listen.
5. Many programmers have been burned by the dot-com bust a few years  
back.  
Be prepared to talk about benefits, expected work hours, whether people  
get  
paid for working extra, and longevity.

RUBYISTS

1. Be fair to other people and let others talk to the representatives  
too.
2. Don’t be mean or insulting to representatives because of where they  
work  
or whether they are a recruiter or not. We want everyone to have a  
positive  
experience.
3. Make sure your resume is clean, has your required information, and  
that  
you bring enough copies.
4. Don’t run around like a whore giving your resume out to everyone with  
a  
business card. It’s degrading.

EVERYBODY

1. Don’t talk salary at the meeting, save that for later. This tends to  
make everyone uncomfortable.
2. People interested in talking more after we start to go over Canada on  
Rails should probably go hit a bar, restaurant or coffee shop in the  
area to  
talk shop more privately.

These “rules” are open for suggestion since this is our very first job  
fair.  
If anything makes you uncomfortable or you think should be done  
different  
then feel free to e-mail me (see below).

== Representatives RSVP With Zed

In order to judge what kind of space we’ll need we’d like the  
representatives (companies or recruiters) to RSVP. After we have all  
the  
requests we’ll determine a time limit and maybe possibly look for a  
larger  
venue.

Send a short e-mail to me (Zed A. Shaw) with what company you’ll  
represent  
or whether you’re a recruiter for many companies and if you’d like a  
little  
blurb in the listing we’ll post later.

My e-mail address is removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid.

== Interested Rubyists RSVP With Francis

You don’t _have_ to do this but we’d like to judge whether we have  
enough  
space. Please send a short e-mail to Francis H. just saying you’ll  
attend. This is mostly for a head count.

Francis’ e-mail is removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid.

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**Author:** ![Zed\_S](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/z/da6949/32.png) [@Zed\_S](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Zed_S)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2006, 7:30pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/nyc-ruby-job-fair-iso-8859-1-q-8b-april-25th/58345/2 "2006-04-20T19:30:12Z")

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On 4/20/06, Zed S. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote:

> === NYC Ruby Job Fair – April 25th

Interesting idea. If there happens to be an overflow of  
representatives and not enough Rubyists going around at the meeting,  
maybe you could hook up other Rubyists from around the country if the  
representatives are interested in telecommuters.

Just an idea. I would certainly appreciate getting some contacts, as  
I’m sure others would who are looking to jump into the Ruby job  
market.

FYI I’m located in South Florida.

Regards,  
Ryan

P.S. Yes I meant this to go to the whole list 🙂

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**Author:** ![Zed\_S](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/z/da6949/32.png) [@Zed\_S](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Zed_S)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2006, 7:36pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/nyc-ruby-job-fair-iso-8859-1-q-8b-april-25th/58345/3 "2006-04-20T19:36:23Z")

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On 4/20/06, Ryan L. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote:

> On 4/20/06, Zed S. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote:
> 
> > === NYC Ruby Job Fair – April 25th
> 
> Interesting idea. If there happens to be an overflow of  
> representatives and not enough Rubyists going around at the meeting,  
> maybe you could hook up other Rubyists from around the country if the  
> representatives are interested in telecommuters.

NYC.rb tends to get at least 20 or so Rubyists per meeting… and  
they’ve been growing like crazy. But that might not be a bad idea.  
Of course, my vote would only be half of a vote, since I come down  
from New Haven like some sort of fanboy every month 🙂

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**Post date:** [April 20, 2006, 7:50pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/nyc-ruby-job-fair-iso-8859-1-q-8b-april-25th/58345/4 "2006-04-20T19:50:57Z")

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DOH! Ruby-want-to gets no love in Lubbock Texas. :o) Bummer. Well,  
Guess I’ll have to wait unti the job fair gets a little close.

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**Post date:** [April 20, 2006, 7:58pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/nyc-ruby-job-fair-iso-8859-1-q-8b-april-25th/58345/5 "2006-04-20T19:58:14Z")

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On 4/20/06, Gregory B. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote:

> they’ve been growing like crazy. But that might not be a bad idea.  
> Of course, my vote would only be half of a vote, since I come down  
> from New Haven like some sort of fanboy every month 🙂

Note, there seems to be some effort in starting up a Stamford group (  
[http://stamfordruby.com/](http://stamfordruby.com/) ), but I don’t know how much interest they’ve  
gotten.

Any idea if any of these representatives are recruiting for CT jobs?

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**Post date:** [April 20, 2006, 8:16pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/nyc-ruby-job-fair-iso-8859-1-q-8b-april-25th/58345/6 "2006-04-20T20:16:41Z")

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John G. wrote:

> > > maybe you could hook up other Rubyists from around the country if the  
> > > [http://stamfordruby.com/](http://stamfordruby.com/) ), but I don’t know how much interest they’ve  
> > > gotten.
> 
> Any idea if any of these representatives are recruiting for CT jobs?

I guess this Stamford group thing slipped by me (and maybe all of the  
other New Haven Rubyists). I’d like to invite all of you Stamford  
Rubyists to come join us at our next meeting in New Haven. It should be  
happening on Wednesday, May 10th (the second Wednesday of the month).  
You can find out more about us at [newhavenrubyists.org](http://newhavenrubyists.org)!

Um, this goes for any other ruby folk in CT as well. I mean, you don’t  
_have_ to be in Stamford.

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**Post date:** [April 20, 2006, 8:16pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/nyc-ruby-job-fair-iso-8859-1-q-8b-april-25th/58345/7 "2006-04-20T20:16:42Z")

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On 4/20/06, John G. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote:

> Note, there seems to be some effort in starting up a Stamford group (  
> [http://stamfordruby.com/](http://stamfordruby.com/) ), but I don’t know how much interest they’ve  
> gotten.
> 
> Any idea if any of these representatives are recruiting for CT jobs?

Hmm… that’s exciting, I didn’t know they were starting up. Maybe I  
can get in touch with the stamford guys and see if we could host a CT  
job fair between our two groups (new\_haven.rb / stamford) if we can  
find sufficient interest.

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**Post date:** [April 20, 2006, 8:22pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/nyc-ruby-job-fair-iso-8859-1-q-8b-april-25th/58345/8 "2006-04-20T20:22:48Z")

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On 4/20/06, Matthew D. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote:

> I guess this Stamford group thing slipped by me (and maybe all of the  
> other New Haven Rubyists). I’d like to invite all of you Stamford  
> Rubyists to come join us at our next meeting in New Haven. It should be  
> happening on Wednesday, May 10th (the second Wednesday of the month).  
> You can find out more about us at [newhavenrubyists.org](http://newhavenrubyists.org)!
> 
> Um, this goes for any other ruby folk in CT as well. I mean, you don’t  
> _have_ to be in Stamford.

Also, for those traveling via train, I usually go from downtown new  
haven directly over to ISG (our meeting place), and then I usually  
take the train after the meetings, so a carpool can probably be  
arranged.
