# Noisy source block

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**Created:** [April 15, 2014, 5:19am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/noisy-source-block/240453 "2014-04-15T05:19:54Z")\
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**Post date:** [April 15, 2014, 5:19am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/noisy-source-block/240453/1 "2014-04-15T05:19:54Z")

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higuys  
why the unit of amplitude in Noisy source block is volt?  
how to explain this ?  
thanks,  
BZS

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**Author:** ![casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/58956e/32.png) [@casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/casper_the_ghost)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2014, 10:32am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/noisy-source-block/240453/2 "2014-04-15T10:32:31Z")

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On 04/15/2014 04:46 AM, 猪猪猪猪猪猪头 wrote:

> hi，guys  
> why the unit of amplitude in Noisy source block is volt?  
> how to explain this ?  
> thanks,  
> BZS

Not sure what your question is. Signal amplitudes are usually in Volts,  
that’s just the right physical unit.

I assume you’re asking because in the digital domain, there’s really no  
volts, and that’s a good point. The unit could also just be 1. This is  
something you sometimes see in (especially older) DSP textbooks.

There’s a similar thing, where the mag-square of a signal is often  
considered its instantaneous power (which, would assume a resistance of  
1 \Ohm if you’re still thinking in physical power).

So, just ignore this if it confuses you.

Martin

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**Author:** ![casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/58956e/32.png) [@casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/casper_the_ghost)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2014, 12:06pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/noisy-source-block/240453/3 "2014-04-15T12:06:55Z")

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Hi 猪猪猪猪猪猪头,

you’ve replied to the wrong thread; however:

dB is _always_ a relative measure. You can’t output dB; it always has  
to be dB in relation to something.

The parameter of the noise source is amplitude.  
Like Martin, if I _want_ to stick a physical entity to it, it would be  
voltage. Usually, I don’t – the noise source just outputs a  
realization of a complex random process; it’s just numbers without unit.

I’m under the impression you’re mixing up absolute noise power, noise  
variance, and SNR; for SNR, which is a ratio, dB does indeed make  
sense. However, you don’t get a noise source that generates a certain  
SNR, because that depends on the signal power, and is something that  
you/your application has to calculate.

Greetings,  
Marcus

> hi ,Martin B. well ,in my impression, the unit of is noisy is  
> dB,so i feel fuzzy  
> about the volt,  
> thanks for your reply!

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