# .Net Developer wants to volunteer at RoR project

**URL:** <https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/net-developer-wants-to-volunteer-at-ror-project/50922>\
**Category:** Rails\
**Created:** [December 22, 2005, 9:39pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/net-developer-wants-to-volunteer-at-ror-project/50922 "2005-12-22T21:39:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![wickie](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/ba9def/32.png) [@wickie](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/wickie)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2005, 9:39pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/net-developer-wants-to-volunteer-at-ror-project/50922/1 "2005-12-22T21:39:49Z")

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Hi,  
having read “my job went to india” I decided to quit programming within  
the Microsoft environment and start something different…

So, is there any RubyOnRails project that in exchange for “reviving” me  
needs a loyal (code) contributor?

Thanks in advance  
Michael

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**Author:** ![wickie](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/ba9def/32.png) [@wickie](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/wickie)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2005, 1:03am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/net-developer-wants-to-volunteer-at-ror-project/50922/2 "2005-12-23T01:03:59Z")

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On 12/22/05, Kyle M. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote:

> generating patches.  
> I don’t think he’s offering to work on RoR, I think he’s offering to  
> work on a project that uses RoR. Probably a big difference. 🙂

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**Author:** ![wickie](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/ba9def/32.png) [@wickie](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/wickie)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2005, 11:24pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/net-developer-wants-to-volunteer-at-ror-project/50922/3 "2005-12-22T23:24:35Z")

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On 12/22/05, Michael S. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote:

> –  
> Posted via [http://www.ruby-forum.com/](http://www.ruby-forum.com/).
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> Rails mailing list  
> removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid  
> [http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails](http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails)

If you go to [dev.rubyonrails.com](http://dev.rubyonrails.com), you can take a look at the  
outstanding bugs and feature requests, as well as instructions for  
generating patches.

–  
Kyle M.  
Chief Technologist  
E Factor Media // FN Interactive  
removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid  
1-866-263-3261

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**Author:** ![wickie](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/ba9def/32.png) [@wickie](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/wickie)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2005, 1:51am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/net-developer-wants-to-volunteer-at-ror-project/50922/4 "2005-12-23T01:51:36Z")

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Michael S. wrote:

> Hi,  
> having read “my job went to india” I decided to quit programming within  
> the Microsoft environment and start something different…

Check out [softiesonrails.com](http://softiesonrails.com) and let us know what you think. A  
colleague of mine and I are also coming from the Microsoft realm trying  
to transition to the Rails world and started a blog to help others make  
the transition too.

So any comments or suggestions for topics would be very welcome.

And best of luck. I think you’ll find the Ruby community a pretty warm  
one.

Jeff

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**Author:** ![wickie](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/ba9def/32.png) [@wickie](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/wickie)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2005, 1:13am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/net-developer-wants-to-volunteer-at-ror-project/50922/5 "2005-12-23T01:13:02Z")

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Hello Michael,

I can’t tell you how happy I am to see your post! Not good for you  
(or me) but I am relieved to see I’m not the only one affected by the  
offshore model. I’m sure there are plenty of offshore people that read  
these posts and this isn’t meant to insult them, but to let them know  
that the model has definitely affected those of us who got to live the  
good years in software consulting! The global economy has changed lots  
of things and will continue to do so. Just so happens, the company I  
work for will be utilizing those lowered salaries from a different  
country to help do some telemarketing!

I came from the .NET world myself I will say that I like rails (and  
ruby) even though I find myself completely ignorant to a world outside  
of Microsoft. My biggest learning curve hasn’t been with Rails, but  
with Ruby and, more specifically, the vast array of choices. By  
choices, I mean which web server to use, which OS to use, and if Linux,  
then the whole slew of stuff that comes with that. This is NOT an easy  
migration for a Microsoft guy and it is very humbling to go from being  
able to do almost anything in the Microsoft world to being completely  
lost and having to rely on these groups for answers. But… I’m still  
here! It is the future (and partly the here-and-now) and it is worth  
the learning curve.

In my 10 years of developing applications, I didn’t once make a post  
to a newsgroup or forum except when I started tackling BizTalk all by  
myself. In the short time I have been playing around with open source  
software, it is the only thing that has saved me. I’m completely blown  
away by the support of the groups and the quality of information they  
supply. I work from home and lack the kind of support one might find in  
a corporate environment. I lack the core knowledge of these systems  
that you gain by being around others who can “show you the tricks.” I’m  
a one-man-shop and it is intimidating. But the community is great and  
it always helps whenever I have raised a question.

On another note, I now exclusively use OpenOffice, I have a fully  
functional PBX running on Asterisk and another server running on a  
totally free software stack thanks to the open source community. I  
never reboot the linux machines (that was just so uncomfortable at  
first, but really, you don’t need to reboot them) and I have managed to  
hack together a pretty cool little “CRM” app in Rails that we use to run  
the business. While it is still in its infancy, it is functional and  
relatively bug free. I “build as I go” and it is amazingly simple. For  
all the hell that scaffolding gets, it is actually a very nice feature  
when you need to add functionality on the fly and make it look prettier  
and function more properly later on.

Next on my list: RAGI (Ruby Asterisk Gateway Interface) integration  
with my rails app. Wish me luck!

I used to consider myself a “techie” - but I was so wrong. That was  
also very humbling… The people you will find in these groups are  
definitely more technical than I ever thought of being - even though I  
was architecting large-scale applications.

Anyway, welcome! Sorry for the long reply. I hope you find a great  
Open Source project to work on. If not, then consider helping me build  
a vTiger / SugarCRM replacement on Rails! That is one of my goals as  
soon as I find some spare time…hopefully noone beats me to it! 🙂  
What a great open source project that would be for the ROR community!

Best of luck!

Michael

Michael S. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote:  
Hi,  
having read “my job went to india” I decided to quit programming within  
the Microsoft environment and start something different…

So, is there any RubyOnRails project that in exchange for “reviving” me  
needs a loyal (code) contributor?

Thanks in advance  
Michael

–  
Posted via [http://www.ruby-forum.com/](http://www.ruby-forum.com/).

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**Author:** ![wickie](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/ba9def/32.png) [@wickie](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/wickie)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2005, 4:04pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/net-developer-wants-to-volunteer-at-ror-project/50922/6 "2005-12-23T16:04:41Z")

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On 12/22/05, Michael S. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote:

> Hi,  
> having read “my job went to india” I decided to quit programming within  
> the Microsoft environment and start something different…

Awesome. That’s an excellent book.

> So, is there any RubyOnRails project that in exchange for “reviving” me  
> needs a loyal (code) contributor?

You’re more than welcome to help out with eXPlainPMT  
([http://explainpmt.com](http://explainpmt.com)).

–  
Regards,  
John W.

> **[John Wilger](http://johnwilger.com)**
>
> The personal website of John Wilger; Dad, Cyclist, Software Developer

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Alice came to a fork in the road. “Which road do I take?” she asked.  
“Where do you want to go?” responded the Cheshire cat.  
“I don’t know,” Alice answered.  
“Then,” said the cat, “it doesn’t matter.”

- Lewis Carrol, Alice in Wonderland
