# Mental Branch **URL:** \ **Category:** Radiant CMS\ **Created:** [September 27, 2006, 11:50pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/mental-branch/70285 "2006-09-27T23:50:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![John\_WSLong](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/34f0e0/32.png) [@John\_WSLong](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/John_WSLong)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2006, 11:50pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/mental-branch/70285/1 "2006-09-27T23:50:16Z")
If you’ve been watching the change logs lately, you might have noticed a new branch in the repository–the “mental” branch: [http://dev.radiantcms.org/radiant/browser/branches/mental/radiant](http://dev.radiantcms.org/radiant/browser/branches/mental/radiant) It’s basically a place for the core team to play around with a few architectural changes. The most significant change to date is that we are experimenting with the idea of axing behaviors and moving to an inheritance hierarchy for pages: [http://dev.radiantcms.org/radiant/changeset/126](http://dev.radiantcms.org/radiant/changeset/126) If you have a moment, please download it and give it a try. Perhaps the bold and daring among you could even convert a custom behavior or two to page subclasses and tell me how you like the new architecture. – John L. [http://wiseheartdesign.com](http://wiseheartdesign.com) ---
**Author:** ![John\_WSLong](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/34f0e0/32.png) [@John\_WSLong](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/John_WSLong)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2006, 2:36am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/mental-branch/70285/2 "2006-09-28T02:36:31Z")
> If you’ve been watching the change logs lately, you might > have noticed a > new branch in the repository–the “mental” branch: > > [http://dev.radiantcms.org/radiant/browser/branches/mental/radiant](http://dev.radiantcms.org/radiant/browser/branches/mental/radiant) > > It’s basically a place for the core team to play around with a few > architectural changes. The most significant change to date is that we > are experimenting with the idea of axing behaviors and moving to an > inheritance hierarchy for pages: Duckies! I was just about to get into radiant work again (well, once I manage to unpack enough stuff to actually be able to do anything - moving house sucks), and it’s nice to see that I can throw away the majority of my ‘on crack’ changes and just take this branch to start off again. The big reason that I was trying to push for this change was to be able to introduce activerecord associations to the subclassed behaviors and then modify the admin display for those behaviors. To do this you’d need the following hooks into the admin interface to: - modify the rendering of the page editing (mainly add new fields, but maybe hide away/rearrange the existing fields?) - intercept the saving process (to convert fields to associations and verify those associations) Looking over the plugin proposals, I’m not quite sure what the best way to go about this is. The second part can probably be done just with activerecord validations and extra methods on the behavior, though that might be mixing the model with the view a bit. The modification of the page editing might be achieved by something like: def activate routes.my\_route “my/route”, :controller =\> “my\_controller”, :action =\> “my\_action” admin.pageviews.add “My Handy Dandy Page”, “\_my\_page\_view\_partial” page\_classes.activate “My Handy Dandy Page” end Also, if behaviour pages have possibly different validations/fields, then the PageController will need to make sure that it’s got an instance of the correct class before it does an update. I’ll hopefully be able to dive back in and explore this myself in a couple of weeks, but I thought I’d get it out now before it slips my mind. How do you see these ideas fitting in with the plugin model? ---
**Author:** ![John\_WSLong](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/34f0e0/32.png) [@John\_WSLong](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/John_WSLong)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2006, 4:12pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/mental-branch/70285/3 "2006-09-28T16:12:01Z")
Daniel S. wrote: > The big reason that I was trying to push for this change was to be able > to introduce activerecord associations to the subclassed behaviors and > then modify the admin display for those behaviors. Yup, this is a huge benefit the new model. > To do this you’d need the following hooks into the admin interface to: > - modify the rendering of the page editing (mainly add new > fields, but maybe hide away/rearrange the existing fields?) I would like to eventually support this, but it’s probably not going to be part of the initial plugin system. > - intercept the saving process (to convert fields to > associations and verify those associations) This shouldn’t be difficult to support. > ``` > page_classes.activate "My Handy Dandy Page" > > ``` > > end That looks useful. I was thinking to leverage partials for this as well. > Also, if behaviour pages have possibly different validations/fields, > then the PageController will need to make sure that it’s got an instance > of the correct class before it does an update. True enough. It does open up a whole other level of complexity. – John L. [http://wiseheartdesign.com](http://wiseheartdesign.com) ---
**Author:** ![John\_WSLong](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/34f0e0/32.png) [@John\_WSLong](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/John_WSLong)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 4:41pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/mental-branch/70285/4 "2006-10-10T16:41:22Z")
Ollivier, I intend to make Commentable into a page type with model(s) soon, but I’m kinda bogged down right now with other projects. Sean C. [seancribbs.com](http://seancribbs.com) ---
**Author:** ![John\_WSLong](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/34f0e0/32.png) [@John\_WSLong](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/John_WSLong)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 4:21pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/mental-branch/70285/5 "2006-10-10T16:21:02Z")
On 9/28/06, John W. Long [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > Yup, this is a huge benefit the new model. So, is this going to become the new trunk at some point? I’ve been tracking it through svn/hg and it works fine… I’ve not modified any behaviour^Wpage types so for me there is no difference yet. [to all] Are there any plan to update/rewrite the current Third Parties behaviours into page types? ---
**Author:** ![John\_WSLong](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/34f0e0/32.png) [@John\_WSLong](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/John_WSLong)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 10:29pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/mental-branch/70285/6 "2006-10-10T22:29:06Z")
On 10/10/06, Alexander H. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > I would think that is the responsibility of the maintainers of Third > Party page extensions. Agreed and that’s why it was addressed to all 🙂 Now, for people to do that, the branch must gain some kind of status like “this is where we want to go in the future” even though it is still experimental. > Have you had time to track the Corex branch? It has some improvements > to page extensions. I don’t check all the branches in the svn tree so no, I didn’t know it existed. The website is still down BTW, any news on that? ---
**Author:** ![John\_WSLong](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/34f0e0/32.png) [@John\_WSLong](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/John_WSLong)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 11:03pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/mental-branch/70285/7 "2006-10-10T23:03:11Z")
> Now, for people to do that, the branch must gain some kind of status > like “this is where we want to go in the future” even though it is > still experimental. Point granted. As soon as John has come back and has settled in again we should see what our roadmap should look like to incorporate some of the changes that have been made over the last month. You will find some pretty significant improvements to the core (check the “corex” branch; see below). > > Have you had time to track the Corex branch? It has some improvements > > to page extensions. > > I don’t check all the branches in the svn tree so no, I didn’t know it existed. I have tried to keep you guys up-to-date with my Annotated Changelogs ( [http://lists.radiantcms.org/pipermail/radiant-core/2006-October/thread.html](http://lists.radiantcms.org/pipermail/radiant-core/2006-October/thread.html) ). I have sought feedback on the IRC channel as well. Maybe we just missed each other on those occasions. I hope we can work together on this more. I am happy to answer any questions you guys might have regarding the “corex” branch. Please feel free to comment on any issues or quirks you encounter. An overall list of changes in the “corex” branch can be found here: [http://alxh.blogspot.com/](http://alxh.blogspot.com/). – Alexander H. [http://www2.truman.edu/~ah428](http://www2.truman.edu/~ah428) ---
**Author:** ![John\_WSLong](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/34f0e0/32.png) [@John\_WSLong](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/John_WSLong)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 5:23pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/mental-branch/70285/8 "2006-10-10T17:23:41Z")
> > [to all] > > Are there any plan to update/rewrite the current Third Parties > > behaviours into page types? I would think that is the responsibility of the maintainers of Third Party page extensions. > > So, is this going to become the new trunk at some point? I’ve been > > tracking it through svn/hg and it works fine… I’ve not modified any > > behaviour^Wpage types so for me there is no difference yet. Have you had time to track the Corex branch? It has some improvements to page extensions. On 10/10/06, Sean C. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > > On 9/28/06, John W. Long [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > > Ollivier R. - > > Radiant mailing list > > Post: removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid > > Search: [http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/](http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/) > > Site: > > [http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant](http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant) – Alexander H. [http://www2.truman.edu/~ah428](http://www2.truman.edu/~ah428) ---
**Author:** ![John\_WSLong](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/34f0e0/32.png) [@John\_WSLong](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/John_WSLong)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2006, 10:38am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/mental-branch/70285/9 "2006-10-18T10:38:48Z")
On 10/10/06, Alexander H. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > I am happy to answer any questions you guys might have regarding the > “corex” branch. Please feel free to comment on any issues or quirks > you encounter. An overall list of changes in the “corex” branch can be > found here: [http://alxh.blogspot.com/](http://alxh.blogspot.com/). Any plan to have an RSS feed of svn changes? I have it on TextMate and other software I’m following and that would be nice to have. Thanks, ---
**Author:** ![John\_WSLong](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/34f0e0/32.png) [@John\_WSLong](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/John_WSLong)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2006, 10:38am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/mental-branch/70285/10 "2006-10-18T10:38:50Z")
On Oct 12, 2006, at 10:40 AM, Ollivier R. wrote: > On 10/10/06, Alexander H. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > > > I am happy to answer any questions you guys might have regarding the > > “corex” branch. Please feel free to comment on any issues or quirks > > you encounter. An overall list of changes in the “corex” branch > > can be > > found here: [http://alxh.blogspot.com/](http://alxh.blogspot.com/). > > Any plan to have an RSS feed of svn changes? I have it on TextMate > and other > software I’m following and that would be nice to have. You can get just the corex feed here: [http://dev.radiantcms.org/radiant/log/branches/corex](http://dev.radiantcms.org/radiant/log/branches/corex)? limit=100&mode=stop\_on\_copy&format=rss Or a feed with all branches here: [http://dev.radiantcms.org/radiant/log/](http://dev.radiantcms.org/radiant/log/)? limit=100&mode=stop\_on\_copy&format=rss Thanks, Wes ---
**Author:** ![John\_WSLong](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/34f0e0/32.png) [@John\_WSLong](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/John_WSLong)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2006, 10:38am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/mental-branch/70285/11 "2006-10-18T10:38:50Z")
On 10/10/06, Alexander H. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > Have you had time to track the Corex branch? It has some improvements > to page extensions. Any migration path from the “normal” radiant? I’ve tried to import my postgresql data and corex fails with several errors like “content” tag unknown and others. Thanks, ---
**Author:** ![John\_WSLong](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/34f0e0/32.png) [@John\_WSLong](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/John_WSLong)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2006, 10:38am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/mental-branch/70285/12 "2006-10-18T10:38:50Z")
On 10/12/06, Ollivier R. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > On 10/10/06, Alexander H. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > > > I am happy to answer any questions you guys might have regarding the > > “corex” branch. Please feel free to comment on any issues or quirks > > you encounter. An overall list of changes in the “corex” branch can be > > found here: [http://alxh.blogspot.com/](http://alxh.blogspot.com/). > > Any plan to have an RSS feed of svn changes? I have it on TextMate and other > software I’m following and that would be nice to have. Trac has this: [http://dev.radiantcms.org/radiant/timeline](http://dev.radiantcms.org/radiant/timeline) Tweak to taste and subscribe. -Tom ---
**Author:** ![John\_WSLong](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/34f0e0/32.png) [@John\_WSLong](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/John_WSLong)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2006, 10:38am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/mental-branch/70285/13 "2006-10-18T10:38:51Z")
> Any migration path from the “normal” radiant? I’ve tried to import my > postgresql > data and corex fails with several errors like “content” tag unknown and others. With the creation of the branch I removed the old migration scripts because I could not get Postgresql to work with these legacy migrations. This change is only temporary but it means that you currently cannot migrate your 0.5x data to the “corex” branch. Most likely though, you current pages probably rely on Archive and other behaviors anyway. Since those behaviors haven’t been ported yet I decided the migrations are not on the top of the to-do-list. But don’t despair. When you create a “pristine” copy of “corex” you will be prompted as part of the migration procedure on what YAML file you would like to import. Choose [2] and you’ll get the basic page layout. I hope this helps. – Alexander H. [http://www2.truman.edu/~ah428](http://www2.truman.edu/~ah428) ---
**Author:** ![John\_WSLong](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/34f0e0/32.png) [@John\_WSLong](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/John_WSLong)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2006, 10:38am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/mental-branch/70285/14 "2006-10-18T10:38:58Z")
On 10/12/06, Alexander H. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > migrations. This change is only temporary but it means that you > currently cannot migrate your 0.5x data to the “corex” branch. Most OK. > likely though, you current pages probably rely on Archive and other > behaviors anyway. Since those behaviors haven’t been ported yet I Except for Archive which I just started using, I don’t rely on any behaviour and no third-party one anyway so I expected to be easy. But the first error I got is “content: tag unknown”… The real home page of the site has several parts and I use this code: * * * \ ## * * * ----- so you tell me this does not work anymore? > But don’t despair. When you create a “pristine” copy of “corex” you > will be prompted as part of the migration procedure on what YAML file > you would like to import. Choose [2] and you’ll get the basic page > layout. I hope this helps. I will look at that. ---
**Author:** ![John\_WSLong](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/34f0e0/32.png) [@John\_WSLong](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/John_WSLong)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2006, 10:39am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/mental-branch/70285/15 "2006-10-18T10:39:17Z")
> ``` > > > ``` > > * * * > ----- Make sure the page type is StandardPage. That is, if you want to use the standard tags (such as \, \ … etc.) you need to select in the admin interface the “Page Type” called “Standard.” Of course, you might have run into the problem that ArchivePage is a subclass of Page (not StandardPage). If you want a “behavior” (let’s call it “page extension” that’s a better term) have access to the standard tags you need to subclass StandardPage. In the case of ArchivePage the class definition might look like this: class ArchivePage \< StandardPage … end On 10/12/06, Ollivier R. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > behaviour and no third-party one anyway so I expected to be easy. But > > \> you would like to import. Choose [2] and you'll get the basic page – Alexander H. [http://www2.truman.edu/~ah428](http://www2.truman.edu/~ah428)