# JVM Languages group **URL:** \ **Category:** Ruby\ **Created:** [August 5, 2007, 11:20pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/jvm-languages-group/111319 "2007-08-05T23:20:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![headius](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/7c8e57/32.png) [@headius](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/headius)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2007, 11:20pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/jvm-languages-group/111319/1 "2007-08-05T23:20:47Z")
FYI, for the past couple months there’s been ongoing discussions on the JVM languages google group about how best to implement languages on the JVM. We’ve also started to consider what we need to do to pool efforts and build common frameworks that would raise all ships. If you’re interested in alternative languages for the JVM (which would certainly include Ruby), you might be interested in this group. Or you might know someone who would be interested in this group. Either way… > **[Widening the JVM Languages Group: We Need You!](http://headius.blogspot.com/2007/08/widening-jvm-languages-group-we-need.html)** > > We need diversity in the JVM Languages group , and it's been brought to my attention that some popular/key/interesting languages may not hav... - Charlie ---
**Author:** ![headius](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/7c8e57/32.png) [@headius](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/headius)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2007, 12:23am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/jvm-languages-group/111319/2 "2007-08-06T00:23:50Z")
John J. wrote: > interesting. > seems to be a common theme these days. > compiling to an intermediary language, > gcc > MS’s CLR. > But a Java based solution certainly increases the > distribution/availability of any language (and software in it). > However, in Java tradition, perhaps it will just be “write once, debug > everywhere” again? Let’s hope not 🙂 Seriously though, it seems like the time is ripe for all the dozens of JVM language implementations (including two separate Ruby implementations!) to work together on the platform as a whole. With Java being open-sourced and polyglot programming becoming the hot new thing, it’s a no-brainer to start collaborating in this sort of group. - Charlie ---
**Author:** ![headius](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/7c8e57/32.png) [@headius](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/headius)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2007, 1:04am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/jvm-languages-group/111319/3 "2007-08-06T01:04:52Z")
On Mon, 6 Aug 2007, Charles Oliver N. wrote: > If you’re interested in alternative languages for the JVM (which would > certainly include Ruby), you might be interested in this group. Or you might > know someone who would be interested in this group. Either way… How about Forth? – Matt It’s not what I know that counts. It’s what I can remember in time to use. ---
**Author:** ![headius](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/7c8e57/32.png) [@headius](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/headius)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2007, 12:16am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/jvm-languages-group/111319/4 "2007-08-06T00:16:49Z")
On Aug 5, 2007, at 4:20 PM, Charles Oliver N. wrote: > [http://headius.blogspot.com/2007/08/widening-jvm-languages-group-we-](http://headius.blogspot.com/2007/08/widening-jvm-languages-group-we-) > need.html > > - Charlie interesting. seems to be a common theme these days. compiling to an intermediary language, gcc MS’s CLR. But a Java based solution certainly increases the distribution/ availability of any language (and software in it). However, in Java tradition, perhaps it will just be “write once, debug everywhere” again? (just kidding, I really do think it’s an excellent idea) ---
**Author:** ![headius](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/7c8e57/32.png) [@headius](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/headius)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2007, 1:11am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/jvm-languages-group/111319/5 "2007-08-06T01:11:53Z")
Matt L. wrote: > It’s what I can remember in time to use. Join the group – I beat you to it. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![headius](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/7c8e57/32.png) [@headius](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/headius)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2007, 1:10am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/jvm-languages-group/111319/6 "2007-08-06T01:10:53Z")
Charles Oliver N. wrote: > Let’s hope not 🙂 Seriously though, it seems like the time is ripe for > all the dozens of JVM language implementations (including two separate > Ruby implementations!) to work together on the platform as a whole. With > Java being open-sourced and polyglot programming becoming the hot new > thing, it’s a no-brainer to start collaborating in this sort of group. > > - Charlie Polyglot programming? Sure, I know a whole bunch of programming languages, but I’m not at all sure that’s a good thing, and I’m even less sure that I want to learn Python, PHP or _any_ dialect of C other than C itself. There are as far as I’m concerned only two reasons to learn a programming language: 1. Because I get paid to use it, or 2. It has some new concepts that will make me a better overall programmer. Hence, I am learning Ruby and Erlang, and I learned FORTRAN, Lisp/Scheme, C, Forth, Perl and R. ---
**Author:** ![headius](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/7c8e57/32.png) [@headius](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/headius)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2007, 3:24am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/jvm-languages-group/111319/7 "2007-08-06T03:24:01Z")
Matt L. wrote: > On Mon, 6 Aug 2007, Charles Oliver N. wrote: > > > If you’re interested in alternative languages for the JVM (which would > > certainly include Ruby), you might be interested in this group. Or you > > might know someone who would be interested in this group. Either way… > > How about Forth? Odd you should ask…a group member just expressed an interest in Forth. I know no details about any current or future Forth implementations for the JVM. - Charlie