# Job in Las Vegas **URL:** \ **Category:** Rails\ **Created:** [April 11, 2008, 8:00pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/job-in-las-vegas/134535 "2008-04-11T20:00:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![nuby2ruby](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/54ee81/32.png) [@nuby2ruby](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/nuby2ruby)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 8:00pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/job-in-las-vegas/134535/1 "2008-04-11T20:00:01Z")
I am a web developer in Las Vegas looking to get another person to help me. The company I work for is Ventura Web Design > **[Ventura Web Design & Marketing | Full Service Web Design & Marketing...](https://www.venturawebdesign.com/)** > > Ventura Web Design & Marketing is a web design and development company that creates and builds professional websites including high quality e-commerce stores with offices in Las Vegas and Tampa. I would like to get someone who knows rails enough to get me back into it. We currently only develop on Yahoo! store platforms, but we are looking to expand which will be my chance to help bring rails to vegas. 1. Must know ruby and rails inside and out 2. Must know javascript 3. Must know CSS 4. Must know how to use photoshop (don’t have to be a pro) 5. knowing RTML your hired instantly 🙂 6. knowing PHP is a plus, but not required. Email me back if you are interested or know anyone. ~Jeremy ---
**Author:** ![nuby2ruby](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/54ee81/32.png) [@nuby2ruby](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/nuby2ruby)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 8:30pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/job-in-las-vegas/134535/2 "2008-04-11T20:30:33Z")
> 1. Must know ruby and rails inside and out > 2. Must know javascript > 3. Must know CSS > 4. Must know how to use photoshop (don’t have to be a pro) > 5. knowing RTML your hired instantly 🙂 Uh… uhm… uh… RHTML? that’s just HTML with \<%%\> tags. What’s to know? (Can anyone answer that?) Or do you mean “know” in the Biblical sense?? – Woody Allen ---
**Author:** ![nuby2ruby](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/54ee81/32.png) [@nuby2ruby](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/nuby2ruby)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 8:34pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/job-in-las-vegas/134535/3 "2008-04-11T20:34:03Z")
I thnk you will find he put RTML > **[RTML](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RTML)** > > RTML is a proprietary programming language used exclusively by Yahoo!'s Yahoo! Store and Yahoo! Site web hosting services. > The language originated at Viaweb, a company founded in 1995 by Paul Graham and Robert T. Morris, as the template language for their e-commerce platform. RTML stands for "Robert T. Morris Language". The RTML editor was offered as an option for customers (usually small businesses) who wanted to customize their online stores more than the built-in templates allowed. The built-... ---
**Author:** ![nuby2ruby](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/54ee81/32.png) [@nuby2ruby](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/nuby2ruby)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 11:37pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/job-in-las-vegas/134535/4 "2008-04-11T23:37:01Z")
Phlip wrote: > > 1. Must know ruby and rails inside and out > > 2. Must know javascript > > 3. Must know CSS > > 4. Must know how to use photoshop (don’t have to be a pro) > > 5. knowing RTML your hired instantly 🙂 > > Uh… uhm… uh… RHTML? that’s just HTML with \<%%\> tags. What’s to > know? (Can > anyone answer that?) > > Or do you mean “know” in the Biblical sense?? > > – > Woody Allen No, not RHTML. I said RTML. I know it is a bit confusing. RTML stands for… well, a bunch of different things, but you can consider it Real Time Markup Language. Has nothing to do with Ruby. There is a ton to know about it. Unfortunately Yahoo calls it a programming language, but I don’t really consider it one. Its mostly just a templating system for HTML with variables and looping structures. ~Jeremy ---
**Author:** ![nuby2ruby](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/54ee81/32.png) [@nuby2ruby](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/nuby2ruby)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 11:39pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/job-in-las-vegas/134535/5 "2008-04-11T23:39:42Z")
Jeremy W. wrote: > removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid wrote: > > > I thnk you will find he put RTML > > > > [RTML - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RTML) > > yes, thank you. That is what I’m talking about. No Probs! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![nuby2ruby](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/54ee81/32.png) [@nuby2ruby](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/nuby2ruby)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 11:54pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/job-in-las-vegas/134535/6 "2008-04-11T23:54:21Z")
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Jeremy W. wrote: | No, not RHTML. I said RTML. I know it is a bit confusing. RTML stands | for… well, a bunch of different things, but you can consider it Real | Time Markup Language. Has nothing to do with Ruby. There is a ton to | know about it. Unfortunately Yahoo calls it a programming language, but | I don’t really consider it one. Its mostly just a templating system for | HTML with variables and looping structures. _ahem_ Calling Lisp “not a programming language” is fighting words. 😉 "Another big use for macros was the embedded language we had for describing pages, called Rtml. (We made up various explanations for what Rtml was supposed to stand for, but actually I named it after Robert Morris, the other founder of Viaweb, whose username is Rtm.) Every page made by our software was generated by a program written in Rtml. We called these programs templates to make them less frightening, but they were real programs. In fact, they were Lisp programs. Rtml was a combination of macros and the built-in Lisp operators." From: [http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/paulgraham/bbnexcerpts.txt](http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/paulgraham/bbnexcerpts.txt) * * * Phillip G. Twitter: [twitter.com/cynicalryan](http://twitter.com/cynicalryan) Rule of Open-Source Programming #11: When a developer says he will work on something, he or she means “maybe”. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - [http://enigmail.mozdev.org](http://enigmail.mozdev.org) iEYEARECAAYFAkf/3fgACgkQbtAgaoJTgL9GrQCeJvzGSUTO+bIg6FNBQ/hYrNO6 flEAn3sMa6Hc7EEFePuEClqtJ/cpFSUL =kcLA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ---
**Author:** ![nuby2ruby](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/54ee81/32.png) [@nuby2ruby](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/nuby2ruby)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 11:37pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/job-in-las-vegas/134535/7 "2008-04-11T23:37:31Z")
removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid wrote: > I thnk you will find he put RTML > > [RTML - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RTML) yes, thank you. That is what I’m talking about. ---
**Author:** ![nuby2ruby](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/54ee81/32.png) [@nuby2ruby](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/nuby2ruby)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2008, 5:19pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/job-in-las-vegas/134535/8 "2008-04-14T17:19:28Z")
Phillip G. wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Jeremy W. wrote: > > | No, not RHTML. I said RTML. I know it is a bit confusing. RTML stands > | for… well, a bunch of different things, but you can consider it Real > | Time Markup Language. Has nothing to do with Ruby. There is a ton to > | know about it. Unfortunately Yahoo calls it a programming language, but > | I don’t really consider it one. Its mostly just a templating system for > | HTML with variables and looping structures. > > _ahem_ > > Calling Lisp “not a programming language” is fighting words. 😉 > > "Another big use for macros was the embedded language we had for > describing pages, called Rtml. (We made up various explanations > for what Rtml was supposed to stand for, but actually I named it > after Robert Morris, the other founder of Viaweb, whose username > is Rtm.) > > Every page made by our software was generated by a program written > in Rtml. We called these programs templates to make them less > frightening, but they were real programs. In fact, they were Lisp > programs. Rtml was a combination of macros and the built-in Lisp > operators." > > From: [http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/paulgraham/bbnexcerpts.txt](http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/paulgraham/bbnexcerpts.txt) > > * * * > > Phillip G. > Twitter: [twitter.com/cynicalryan](http://twitter.com/cynicalryan) > > Rule of Open-Source Programming #11: > > When a developer says he will work on something, he or she means > “maybe”. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (MingW32) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - [http://enigmail.mozdev.org](http://enigmail.mozdev.org) > > iEYEARECAAYFAkf/3fgACgkQbtAgaoJTgL9GrQCeJvzGSUTO+bIg6FNBQ/hYrNO6 > flEAn3sMa6Hc7EEFePuEClqtJ/cpFSUL > =kcLA > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- You are right, calling Lisp “not a programming language” would be fighting words. I’m all down for lisp. The unfortunate thing is that all the documentation for RTML refers to it as being loosely related to Lisp or have some connection with Lisp. Actually programming in RTML, I have yet to see how they are related. If you have some structure errors in your code it will throw Pearl errors onto the screen so I’m assuming that it’s pearl that actually parses the RTML. I think lisp is an awesome programming language. So I wouldn’t put it in the same category as RTML. ~Jeremy