# Is there a Rails-like project out that just makes writing so **URL:** \ **Category:** Ruby\ **Created:** [November 23, 2005, 10:54pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/is-there-a-rails-like-project-out-that-just-makes-writing-so/48734 "2005-11-23T22:54:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1

**Author:** ![AvandenHoven](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/a183cd/32.png) [@AvandenHoven](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/AvandenHoven)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 10:54pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/is-there-a-rails-like-project-out-that-just-makes-writing-so/48734/1 "2005-11-23T22:54:09Z")

Hey guys, It struck me the other day that one of the nicest things about Rails is that it knows a lot of things so I don’t have to. For instance, when i want to create a new Rails project I just type “rails path/to/ new/project” and a handful of seconds later I get a dummied out webapp with test frameworks and all. I then run ./script/generate and start building the application out from there. I don’t have to worry about where to put my Nothing too surprising there. What is surprising is how unbelievably useful that is. I’m no longer a coder, I know how to program in a number of languages but I’ve been specializing in Web Technologies (and relying on REALLY clever java coders) for long enough that I’m very rusty. Ruby helps me get back into the game. But every time I want to start a project, even to do something relatively trivial, I always run into the question, “How do I start this?”. I’m not sure how I should arrange my files, where I should put my test cases, etc. I would like someone a lot smarter than I to build something like the Rails generators but far more generalized. Things I would like it to do: 1. Create a framework for building your app. Perhaps it could take a list of dependancies you know you’re going to need and gets them setup CreateProject myproject RMagick JabberR MYSQL CreateProject myproject Rails \<-- AKA rails myproject only it would install rails if it hadn’t already? 2. Generator for classes ./script/generate class myclass ./script/generate class mymodule/myclass ./script/generate class mymodule/myclass -i InheritedClass -m MixInModule1 -m MixinModule2 3. Scripts for “gemifying” your project. I assume that, assuming you’ve written code in a particular fashion, you could automate the process of turning your code into a gem. I guess that basically I’m looking for Rails without the Rails “Database App on the Web” paradigm. ---

**Author:** ![AvandenHoven](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/a183cd/32.png) [@AvandenHoven](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/AvandenHoven)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 10:58pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/is-there-a-rails-like-project-out-that-just-makes-writing-so/48734/2 "2005-11-23T22:58:11Z")

**Author:** ![AvandenHoven](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/a183cd/32.png) [@AvandenHoven](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/AvandenHoven)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2005, 1:19am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/is-there-a-rails-like-project-out-that-just-makes-writing-so/48734/3 "2005-11-24T01:19:12Z")

On Wednesday 23 November 2005 16:45, Jeremy K. wrote: > On Nov 23, 2005, at 1:57 PM, Adam Van Den H. wrote: > > > I would like someone a lot smarter than I to build something like > > the Rails generators but far more generalized. > > Hi Adam, > > I think you’ll reap the greatest dividends by plunging directly into > Ruby’s lush tropical waters. Lol, yeah, when I read this the first thought I had too was “It’s called Ruby.” 🙂 ---

**Author:** ![AvandenHoven](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/a183cd/32.png) [@AvandenHoven](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/AvandenHoven)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 11:46pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/is-there-a-rails-like-project-out-that-just-makes-writing-so/48734/4 "2005-11-23T23:46:34Z")

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Nov 23, 2005, at 1:57 PM, Adam Van Den H. wrote: > ``` > ./script/generate class myclass > ./script/generate class mymodule/myclass > ./script/generate class mymodule/myclass -i InheritedClass -m > > ``` > > MixInModule1 -m MixinModule2 > > Or something. The important point would be that it would create > the necessary files, including unit test files. Perhaps a testing > framework like that of Rails where YAML is used to create fixtures > for testing could be prescribed. Hi Adam, I think you’ll reap the greatest dividends by plunging directly into Ruby’s lush tropical waters. You’ll find that building apps to bring your ideas to life is a joy that a code generator can never capture. Look at example code and others’ apps to get a feel for how to get yourself situated. Above all, write Ruby! Crack open irb and test, run, test, run 🙂 Best, jeremy -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (Darwin) iD8DBQFDhPD+AQHALep9HFYRAokBAKDNhCHXEU36YJeHzla2BvcC17QsUwCeIROc 5itv1ECBhCViEBfWR++OZ7g= =XZ97 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ---

**Author:** ![AvandenHoven](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/a183cd/32.png) [@AvandenHoven](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/AvandenHoven)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2005, 2:51am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/is-there-a-rails-like-project-out-that-just-makes-writing-so/48734/5 "2005-11-24T02:51:42Z")

Kevin B. wrote: > > Ruby’s lush tropical waters. > > Lol, yeah, when I read this the first thought I had too was “It’s called > Ruby.” 🙂 Exactly. Rails is Ruby + “Database App on the Web” paradigm, so, if you remove the paradigm … I mean, there’s a _reason_ Rails is written in Ruby, no? James – [http://www.ruby-doc.org](http://www.ruby-doc.org) - Ruby Help & Documentation [Ruby Code & Style](http://www.artima.com/rubycs/) - Ruby Code & Style: Writers wanted [http://www.rubystuff.com](http://www.rubystuff.com) - The Ruby Store for Ruby Stuff [http://www.jamesbritt.com](http://www.jamesbritt.com) - Playing with Better Toys [http://www.30secondrule.com](http://www.30secondrule.com) - Building Better Tools