# Is IronRuby avoided in .Net 3.5 SP1... No Mention at all

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**Category:** IronRuby\
**Created:** [May 13, 2008, 6:57am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/is-ironruby-avoided-in-net-3-5-sp1-no-mention-at-all/137439 "2008-05-13T06:57:08Z")\
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**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 6:57am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/is-ironruby-avoided-in-net-3-5-sp1-no-mention-at-all/137439/1 "2008-05-13T06:57:08Z")

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Hi,

I was keen to read the great support for Dynamic languages in the New  
and Most discussed .Net 3.5 SP1.

It was strange to see that there was no discussion at all about Dynamic  
Languages.  
It was avoided in such a manner that IronRuby does not exist at all.

When everything was discussed about… MVC Preview 3, Dynamic  
Scaffolding, Routing etc… it was strange to see that How come IronRuby  
is not considered or discussed at all when all this Inspirations have  
started with Ruby and Rails and

Just my views.

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**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 7:10am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/is-ironruby-avoided-in-net-3-5-sp1-no-mention-at-all/137439/2 "2008-05-13T07:10:33Z")

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Web R.:

> I was keen to read the great support for Dynamic languages in the New  
> and Most discussed .Net 3.5 SP1.
> 
> It was strange to see that there was no discussion at all about Dynamic  
> Languages.  
> It was avoided in such a manner that IronRuby does not exist at all.

IronRuby will be part of the next major release of Visual Studio. It  
won’t be part of the Service Pack.

-John

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**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 7:23am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/is-ironruby-avoided-in-net-3-5-sp1-no-mention-at-all/137439/3 "2008-05-13T07:23:32Z")

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John L. (IRONRUBY) wrote:

> IronRuby will be part of the next major release of Visual Studio. It  
> won’t be part of the Service Pack.
> 
> -John

Hi,

Visual Studio is updated every three years as per my knowledge.  
for example…  
(1) Visual Studio .net ---- (2001)  
(2) Visual Studio 2005 -----(2005)  
(3) Visual Studio 2008------(2008)

You mean to say that IronRuby support with VS shall come now in 2011…?

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**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 7:58am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/is-ironruby-avoided-in-net-3-5-sp1-no-mention-at-all/137439/4 "2008-05-13T07:58:44Z")

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What’s happened to ModuleOps::extended in revision 103?  
(it appears to have been removed)

Kernel::extend calls “extended”, so modules need a default  
implementation.

Cheers, Wayne.

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**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 3:27pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/is-ironruby-avoided-in-net-3-5-sp1-no-mention-at-all/137439/5 "2008-05-13T15:27:35Z")

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I have no idea why … maybe I screwed something up in a merge. In any  
event, I’ve put it back in the next release.

Thanks,  
-John

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**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 3:39pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/is-ironruby-avoided-in-net-3-5-sp1-no-mention-at-all/137439/6 "2008-05-13T15:39:01Z")

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We don’t comment on future release dates. IronRuby 1.0 will ship before  
the next version of VS, but an updated version will ship in the next  
version of VS.

Thanks,  
-John

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**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 3:42pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/is-ironruby-avoided-in-net-3-5-sp1-no-mention-at-all/137439/7 "2008-05-13T15:42:33Z")

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This is really something that the specs should pick up, no?

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**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 4:23pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/is-ironruby-avoided-in-net-3-5-sp1-no-mention-at-all/137439/8 "2008-05-13T16:23:01Z")

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Today we use the specs as a regression test mechanism. We generate a  
baseline ‘clean’ (all specs pass), and we use that to detect  
regressions. I suspect that we didn’t enable the specs for #extend when  
they were checked in, so it didn’t get picked up our baseline clean test  
pass.

Thanks,  
-John

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**Post date:** [May 15, 2008, 2:08am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/is-ironruby-avoided-in-net-3-5-sp1-no-mention-at-all/137439/9 "2008-05-15T02:08:17Z")

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On Mon, 12 May 2008 23:23:32 -0600, Web R. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid)  
wrote:

> (1) Visual Studio .net ---- (2001)  
> += Visual Studio 2003 (the original was Visual Studio 2002, if not  
> mistaken)  
> (2) Visual Studio 2005 -----(2005)  
> Released in November of 2005, so really should have been called Visual  
> Studio 2006  
> (3) Visual Studio 2008------(2008)  
> Released in November of 2007, so was accurately called Visual Studio  
> 2008, though the release came two years after Visual Studio 2005, not  
> three, so from what I can tell the .NET series of Visual Studio is on a  
> two year release cycle. Of course, no one at MSFT will comment on such  
> things, but history seems to back it up.

–  
/M:D

M. David P.  
Co-Founder & Chief Architect, 3rd&Urban, LLC  
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