# I'm a beginner, where should I go to? **URL:** \ **Category:** Ruby\ **Created:** [August 12, 2008, 12:45pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/im-a-beginner-where-should-i-go-to/145641 "2008-08-12T12:45:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ben](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/df788c/32.png) [@ben](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/ben)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2008, 12:45pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/im-a-beginner-where-should-i-go-to/145641/1 "2008-08-12T12:45:05Z")
hi After working with some ruby projects and playing with existing sources I decided to finally get my hands dirty. It’s an interesting experiences with similarities of learning a human language where your comprehension skills are far more better than your speaking skills. Basically the problem I have that I’ve written too much excellent ruby code, without a deeper knowldedge of what the code really do, but with a rather feeling ‘that looks terse’ vs. ‘that looks clunky’. Now that I actually begin to write code of my own, I find myself in a similar position as somebody after a brainsurgery trying to learn how to speak. Its grinding and for every line I write I think for myself ‘oh god that’s probably wrong’. So the thing I’m looking for is a mailinglist where I can post my pathetic code in order to discuss it with some more experienced writers. thanks ben ---
**Author:** ![ben](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/df788c/32.png) [@ben](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/ben)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2008, 12:56pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/im-a-beginner-where-should-i-go-to/145641/2 "2008-08-12T12:56:49Z")
gmail should rename the ‘Send’ button into ‘read again and find typos’ so don’t blame me 🙂 A little accretion to my post: I asked for the beginner list because I have the habbit of asking stupid questions. It’s often the only way for me to understand things, but I also want to avoid by any means to piss people off by ‘polluting’ ‘their’ mailinglist. ---
**Author:** ![ben](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/df788c/32.png) [@ben](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/ben)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2008, 1:16pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/im-a-beginner-where-should-i-go-to/145641/3 "2008-08-12T13:16:44Z")
Perhaps you could use different code profiling tools and benchmarks to learn what works well and what doesn’t? For example, look at ruby Pretty, or these: [http://ruby.sadi.st/Ruby\_Sadist.html](http://ruby.sadi.st/Ruby_Sadist.html) Casimir P. Ben A. kirjoitti: ---
**Author:** ![ben](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/df788c/32.png) [@ben](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/ben)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2008, 1:47pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/im-a-beginner-where-should-i-go-to/145641/4 "2008-08-12T13:47:49Z")
> For example, look at ruby Pretty, or these: > [Confessions of a Ruby Sadist The time has come to show your code who’s boss.](http://ruby.sadi.st/Ruby_Sadist.html) I found nothing for ‘ruby Pretty’ do you have a link maybe I’ve installed Ruby Sadist, but analysing the results is a bit too complicated for me at rightnow. Do you know [http://perlcritic.com/](http://perlcritic.com/). It’s really cool especially for learning and improving your perl skills. Something like this for ruby would be awesome. ---
**Author:** ![ben](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/df788c/32.png) [@ben](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/ben)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2008, 1:17pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/im-a-beginner-where-should-i-go-to/145641/5 "2008-08-12T13:17:20Z")
On 12 Aug 2008, at 11:53, Ben A. wrote: > A little accretion to my post: I asked for the beginner list because I > have the habbit of asking stupid questions. It’s often the only way > for me to understand things, but I also want to avoid by any means to > piss people off by ‘polluting’ ‘their’ mailinglist. Hi Ben, There isn’t a beginners list, so post away! There’s some talk about whether or not one should be created, but nothing concrete has happened yet. Fred ---
**Author:** ![ben](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/df788c/32.png) [@ben](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/ben)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2008, 1:50pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/im-a-beginner-where-should-i-go-to/145641/6 "2008-08-12T13:50:44Z")
> so post away! on [workingwithrails.com](http://workingwithrails.com) your authority level is 50% and the popularity level is 96% so I guess I must believe you 🙂 On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 7:13 AM, Frederick C. ---
**Author:** ![ben](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/df788c/32.png) [@ben](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/ben)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2008, 2:32pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/im-a-beginner-where-should-i-go-to/145641/7 "2008-08-12T14:32:21Z")
On Aug 12, 6:41 am, “Ben A.” [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > to speak. Its grinding and for every line I write I think for myself > ‘oh god that’s probably wrong’. Every line you write will have to be rewritten 10 times. You can usually tell poor code b/c it looks as if it has only been rewritten 5 times 😉 T.