# If Engines 1.2: Engines are dead why we still needed?

**URL:** <https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/if-engines-1-2-engines-are-dead-why-we-still-needed/139238>\
**Category:** Engines\
**Created:** [June 2, 2008, 7:50am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/if-engines-1-2-engines-are-dead-why-we-still-needed/139238 "2008-06-02T07:50:08Z")\
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**Post date:** [June 2, 2008, 7:50am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/if-engines-1-2-engines-are-dead-why-we-still-needed/139238/1 "2008-06-02T07:50:08Z")

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Hi,

From the article below “Engines 1.2: Engines are dead”  
[http://rails-engines.org/news/2007/01/03/engines-are-dead-long-live-engines/](http://rails-engines.org/news/2007/01/03/engines-are-dead-long-live-engines/)

if engines are dead why we still need it?  
and how easy is it to convert current rails app using engine to become  
plugins instead.

thank you in advance