# I got Pickaxe 1 should I buy Pickaxe 2?

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**Created:** [October 25, 2007, 9:00pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/i-got-pickaxe-1-should-i-buy-pickaxe-2/118344 "2007-10-25T21:00:44Z")\
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**Author:** ![bob](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/ea666f/32.png) [@bob](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/bob)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2007, 9:00pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/i-got-pickaxe-1-should-i-buy-pickaxe-2/118344/1 "2007-10-25T21:00:44Z")

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I got Pickaxe 1 should I buy Pickaxe 2?

Do differences make it worth buying the same book twice? Does anybody  
have an opinion on this?

I know RoR v2.0 is coming, but I don’t what to wait several months for  
a book on that version…

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**Author:** ![bob](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/ea666f/32.png) [@bob](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/bob)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2007, 9:10pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/i-got-pickaxe-1-should-i-buy-pickaxe-2/118344/2 "2007-10-25T21:10:06Z")

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On 10/25/07, Bob [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote:

> I got Pickaxe 1 should I buy Pickaxe 2?
> 
> Do differences make it worth buying the same book twice? Does anybody  
> have an opinion on this?
> 
> I know RoR v2.0 is coming, but I don’t what to wait several months for  
> a book on that version…

Are you talking about the Pickaxe, more formally known as “Programming  
Ruby”, or “Active Web D. with Rails?”

In either case both first editions are quite out of date, although  
there’s probably been more change between Rails 1.1 and 1.2 than  
between Ruby 1.6 and 1.8.

I wouldn’t recommend anyone to try to use AWDWR with rails today, and  
I’m not sure if a 3rd edition for Rails 2.0 is imminent. I also have  
the sense that the difference between Rails 1.2 and the upcoming 2.0  
aren’t as drastic as they were between 1.1 and 1.2.

–  
Rick DeNatale

My blog on Ruby  
[http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/](http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/)

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**Author:** ![bob](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/ea666f/32.png) [@bob](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/bob)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2007, 9:30pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/i-got-pickaxe-1-should-i-buy-pickaxe-2/118344/3 "2007-10-25T21:30:37Z")

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I meant the Agile Web Dev with Rails book… thanks for the opinion.  
Also had the sense that the change from 1.1 to 1.2 was more  
significant than 1.2 to 2.0. I’m using the 1.1 book as a reference,  
and it seems like there’s a disconnect between stuff I find in the  
book, and more recent code samples I find online.

Anyone have any other thoughts?

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**Author:** ![bob](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/ea666f/32.png) [@bob](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/bob)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2007, 10:08pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/i-got-pickaxe-1-should-i-buy-pickaxe-2/118344/4 "2007-10-25T22:08:04Z")

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Recycle that book and buy the second edition. There may be a 3rd ed  
coming, not sure, but the changes between rails 1.2 and 2 are not that  
significant from an API perspective, except REST. However, REST is a  
small part of that book anyway. The difference between the 2 editions of  
the book is very significant and using the first edition will cause you  
problems and confusion guaranteed.

-Bill

Bob wrote:

> > On 10/25/07, Bob [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote:
> > 
> > > a book on that version…  
> > > the sense that the difference between Rails 1.2 and the upcoming 2.0

–  
Sincerely,

William P.
