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**Created:** [January 23, 2008, 12:11am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/html-5-differences-from-html-4/126870 "2008-01-23T00:11:27Z")\
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**Author:**  [@antonaylward](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/antonaylward)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2008, 12:11am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/html-5-differences-from-html-4/126870/1 "2008-01-23T00:11:27Z")
[http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/WD-html5-diff-20080122/](http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/WD-html5-diff-20080122/)
Some interesting stuff, especially the section about New Elements/INPUT
I note also that ‘accesskey’ has gone from ‘button’, and a lot of
changes that move attributes & characteristics out of HTML and into
CSS.
However I suspect that in plain text e-ail we will still say things like
**, ~~and so forth 🙂~~ **
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**Author:**  [@antonaylward](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/antonaylward)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2008, 4:51am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/html-5-differences-from-html-4/126870/2 "2008-01-23T04:51:43Z")
On Jan 22, 2008, at 3:10 PM, Anton J Aylward wrote:
> However I suspect that in plain text e-ail we will still say things
> like
> **, ~~and so forth 🙂~~ **
The APIs are what struck me most. There are a number of element/
attribute changes that will make things easier or break things
(depending on where you are in your project). But an API with
“persistent storage” is a dramatic departure from the statelessness of
HTML. The history is exposed to pages (to fix the Ajax-broke-my-back-
button problem and possible to enable the DoubleClick-knows-where-
you’ve-been button).
Lots of other good ideas in terms of creating a declarative platform
that’s not as dumbed down as we’ve grown used to. Even more
interesting is the notion that HTML 5 may work in disconnected
contexts (ala Silverlight and Apollo). If/when this becomes accepted,
maybe it would be worth lobbying for pluggable scripting languages.
Some of these changes could break Javascript’s back (or not, if you’re
a Javascript ninja).
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**Author:**  [@antonaylward](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/antonaylward)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2008, 2:01am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/html-5-differences-from-html-4/126870/3 "2008-01-23T02:01:32Z")
Yeah some extremely interesting stuff in there. I especially like the
datetime types on input tags, as well as the required attribute that can
be
set to indicate a field is required.
Disabling a whole fieldset is nice, so you could toggle the
disabled’ness of
a fieldset by just toggling this attribute using javascript.
And they’re taking out the frame tag! There is a God!
The align attribute gone from a whole ton of elements, including td AND
div.
I can imagine a lot of sites breaking now because they’re using this 🙂
I noticed border is now missing from the img tag. Does this mean that
when
images are created and are inside of a link tag that they will no longer
have a border around them, or do they still default to their standard
behaviour?
Will be interesting to see it put into play in Firefox 3, Internet
Explorer
8 and other browsers.
On Jan 23, 2008 9:40 AM, Anton J Aylward [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote:
> –
> “Most victories came from instantly exploiting your enemy’s stupid
> mistakes, and not from any particular brilliance in your own plan.”
> – Orson Scott Card,
>
> >
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