# How to stop the ML sending my mails back to me?

**URL:** <https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/how-to-stop-the-ml-sending-my-mails-back-to-me/103888>\
**Category:** Ruby\
**Created:** [May 11, 2007, 10:39am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/how-to-stop-the-ml-sending-my-mails-back-to-me/103888 "2007-05-11T10:39:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![fcruxen](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/ecae2f/32.png) [@fcruxen](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/fcruxen)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 10:39am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/how-to-stop-the-ml-sending-my-mails-back-to-me/103888/1 "2007-05-11T10:39:40Z")

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I don’t want to receive the messages I send, it screws my Gmail display.

I have searched everywhere for a way to do that with no luck. I even  
tried to send a message to ruby-talk-ctl with the #msg command, but I  
got no reply.

Any hints?

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**Author:** ![fcruxen](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/ecae2f/32.png) [@fcruxen](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/fcruxen)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 10:49am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/how-to-stop-the-ml-sending-my-mails-back-to-me/103888/2 "2007-05-11T10:49:52Z")

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On 11 May 2007, at 10:38, Felipe C. wrote:

> Felipe C.

You could mark yourself as spam 😉

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**Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 5:12pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/how-to-stop-the-ml-sending-my-mails-back-to-me/103888/3 "2007-05-11T17:12:44Z")

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On 5/11/07, Bill G. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote:

> that, you only saw the message you sent. When you see the second  
> copy, it’s the copy from the list - so it confirms that it actually  
> made it to the list.

You know, it annoyed me at first until I recognized it as a ping-back  
kind of feature. Then it still annoyed me, but it at least had a  
purpose.

This has come up several times before, there are filter hacks but none  
are satisfactory so far. The best I had would remove both of my  
mails, which got really annoying. Other (sane) filter hacks are  
welcome, as it’d be nice to stick it on a wiki page or blog entry so  
we can point people at it.

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**Author:** ![fcruxen](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/ecae2f/32.png) [@fcruxen](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/fcruxen)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 5:02pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/how-to-stop-the-ml-sending-my-mails-back-to-me/103888/4 "2007-05-11T17:02:43Z")

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On 5/11/07, Felipe C. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote:

> I don’t want to receive the messages I send, it screws my Gmail display.
> 
> I have searched everywhere for a way to do that with no luck. I even  
> tried to send a message to ruby-talk-ctl with the #msg command, but I  
> got no reply.
> 
> Any hints?

It’s actually somewhat of a ‘feature’ of gmail. Before they added  
that, you only saw the message you sent. When you see the second  
copy, it’s the copy from the list - so it confirms that it actually  
made it to the list.

Some find it annoying, I find it helpful. I just did a quick scan of  
the Gmail options, and I don’t see any way to turn it off.

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**Author:** ![fcruxen](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/ecae2f/32.png) [@fcruxen](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/fcruxen)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 8:12pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/how-to-stop-the-ml-sending-my-mails-back-to-me/103888/5 "2007-05-11T20:12:11Z")

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dear sender,  
i´m out of the office until may 29th.  
your email will not be forwarded.  
for urgent stuff please contact removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid  
kind regards,  
alexander

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**Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 7:52pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/how-to-stop-the-ml-sending-my-mails-back-to-me/103888/6 "2007-05-11T19:52:09Z")

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On 5/11/07, Bill G. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote:

> It’s actually somewhat of a ‘feature’ of gmail.

None of the other 7 lists I’m subscribed to using Gmail exhibit this  
behavior.

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**Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 9:38pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/how-to-stop-the-ml-sending-my-mails-back-to-me/103888/7 "2007-05-11T21:38:20Z")

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On 5/11/07, Greg D. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote:

> On 5/11/07, Bill G. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote:
> 
> > It’s actually somewhat of a ‘feature’ of gmail.
> 
> None of the other 7 lists I’m subscribed to using Gmail exhibit this behavior.

Not sure how to answer that one, but it seems it may have to do with  
the list setup. That, or the settings you used when you subscribed.  
I’m fairly certain that it happens on all of the lists I’m on, or at  
least most of them. Then again, I’m not really all that focused on  
it.

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**Post date:** [May 12, 2007, 12:25am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/how-to-stop-the-ml-sending-my-mails-back-to-me/103888/8 "2007-05-12T00:25:36Z")

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> Not sure how to answer that one, but it seems it may have to  
> do with the list setup. That, or the settings you used when  
> you subscribed.  
> I’m fairly certain that it happens on all of the lists I’m  
> on, or at least most of them. Then again, I’m not really all  
> that focused on it.

Most ML software has an option to not send a message that you sent to  
you - mailman has a nodupes option, etc.

Browsing through the command help just now, I didn’t find an equivalent  
for whatever software handles the backend for ruby-talk, so I’d say  
you’re probably stuck there.

As for a gmail filter (or any other filter), you might try looking for  
messages that were sent to the ruby-talk list and by you, then drop  
those in the trash. I’m not a gmail user on a regular basis, so I have  
not tested and the usual disclaimers apply 😉

-Doug

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**Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 3:00pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/how-to-stop-the-ml-sending-my-mails-back-to-me/103888/9 "2007-05-18T15:00:18Z")

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On 5/12/07, Doug P. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote:

> Browsing through the command help just now, I didn’t find an equivalent  
> for whatever software handles the backend for ruby-talk, so I’d say  
> you’re probably stuck there.
> 
> As for a gmail filter (or any other filter), you might try looking for  
> messages that were sent to the ruby-talk list and by you, then drop  
> those in the trash. I’m not a gmail user on a regular basis, so I have  
> not tested and the usual disclaimers apply 😉

Yeah, that’s what I thought.

I have seen that mailman has that option, so I can configure it. But  
not with this ML manager.

I like the ping back option, in fact I wanted to enable it in my  
mailman subscriptions, but not after I saw how Gmail handles it.

I see two emails, one appears as a reply of the one before, and all  
the text is compressed in a kind of ugly way.

Unfortunately my Gmail requests for features seem to always go to the  
trash.

Hopefully someone can implement this option in the ruby-talk ML manager.
