# How to create new rails 1.1 app if only rails 1.0 installed?

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**Created:** [April 3, 2006, 9:16pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/how-to-create-new-rails-1-1-app-if-only-rails-1-0-installed/56774 "2006-04-03T21:16:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![pgohman](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/51bf81/32.png) [@pgohman](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/pgohman)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2006, 9:16pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/how-to-create-new-rails-1-1-app-if-only-rails-1-0-installed/56774/1 "2006-04-03T21:16:45Z")

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I have rails 1.0 and I cannot install rails-1.1 system-wide.

However, I can freeze\_edge (but just once because of svn 1.1.4 on  
Debian).

Under this scenario, how can I create brand new rails-1.1 apps?

I know how to freeze\_edge _existing_ rails-1.0 apps but that process  
seems to be imperfect because the script/about command and  
/rails/info/properties URL do not work after freezing to 1.1.0 release  
or revision 4142.

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**Author:** ![pgohman](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/51bf81/32.png) [@pgohman](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/pgohman)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2006, 9:21pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/how-to-create-new-rails-1-1-app-if-only-rails-1-0-installed/56774/2 "2006-04-03T21:21:45Z")

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Peter G. wrote:

> I have rails 1.0 and I cannot install rails-1.1 system-wide.
> 
> However, I can freeze\_edge (but just once because of svn 1.1.4 on  
> Debian).
> 
> Under this scenario, how can I create brand new rails-1.1 apps?
> 
> I know how to freeze\_edge _existing_ rails-1.0 apps but that process  
> seems to be imperfect because the script/about command and  
> /rails/info/properties URL do not work after freezing to 1.1.0 release  
> or revision 4142.

DHH posted about this–  
[http://weblog.rubyonrails.com/articles/2006/04/03/mostly-good-news-about-freezing-typo-and-rails-1-1-1](http://weblog.rubyonrails.com/articles/2006/04/03/mostly-good-news-about-freezing-typo-and-rails-1-1-1)

–suggesting the best way is to check out the Rails trunk from SVN.

Jeff

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**Author:** ![pgohman](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/51bf81/32.png) [@pgohman](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/pgohman)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2006, 9:51pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/how-to-create-new-rails-1-1-app-if-only-rails-1-0-installed/56774/3 "2006-04-03T21:51:27Z")

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Jeff C.man wrote:

> Peter G. wrote:
> 
> > I have rails 1.0 and I cannot install rails-1.1 system-wide.
> > 
> > However, I can freeze\_edge (but just once because of svn 1.1.4 on  
> > Debian).
> > 
> > Under this scenario, how can I create brand new rails-1.1 apps?
> > 
> > I know how to freeze\_edge _existing_ rails-1.0 apps but that process  
> > seems to be imperfect because the script/about command and  
> > /rails/info/properties URL do not work after freezing to 1.1.0 release  
> > or revision 4142.
> 
> DHH posted about this–  
> [Peak Obsession](http://weblog.rubyonrails.com/articles/2006/04/03/mostly-good-news-about-freezing-typo-and-rails-1-1-1)
> 
> –suggesting the best way is to check out the Rails trunk from SVN.
> 
> Jeff

I have the ability to upgrade individual 1.0 apps to 1.1 using  
freeze\_edge.

But I want to create individual 1.1 apps from scratch.

Why? Because upgraded apps don’t seem to support the ‘rails\_info’ or  
‘rails/info’ URL and the ‘script/about’ command fails too (only after  
upgrade).

Assuming I cannot change /usr/bin/rails – how can I create individual  
rails 1.1 apps?

Thanks.

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**Author:** ![pgohman](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/51bf81/32.png) [@pgohman](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/pgohman)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2006, 10:01pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/how-to-create-new-rails-1-1-app-if-only-rails-1-0-installed/56774/4 "2006-04-03T22:01:19Z")

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On 4/3/06, Peter G. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote:

> rails 1.1 apps?  
> If you all you want is the skeleton of the app that the rails command  
> generates, why don’t you run that command on a different machine (that  
> has Rails 1.1 installed) and then just copy the skeleton?

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**Post date:** [April 3, 2006, 10:25pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/how-to-create-new-rails-1-1-app-if-only-rails-1-0-installed/56774/5 "2006-04-03T22:25:54Z")

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Hi Peter,

how about something like this:

mkdir mynewproject  
mkdir mynewproject/vendor  
cd mynewproject/vendor  
svn export [http://dev.rubyonrails.org/svn/rails/tags/rel\_1-1-0](http://dev.rubyonrails.org/svn/rails/tags/rel_1-1-0) rails  
cd …/  
ruby vendor/rails/railties/bin/rails .

Regards,  
Trevor

–  
Trevor S.  
[http://somethinglearned.com](http://somethinglearned.com)