# Help for vintage Ruby doobie newbie

**URL:** <https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/help-for-vintage-ruby-doobie-newbie/84412>\
**Category:** Rails\
**Created:** [February 4, 2007, 3:32am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/help-for-vintage-ruby-doobie-newbie/84412 "2007-02-04T03:32:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![captaffy](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/f04885/32.png) [@captaffy](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/captaffy)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2007, 3:32am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/help-for-vintage-ruby-doobie-newbie/84412/1 "2007-02-04T03:32:56Z")

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I am trying to build R on R on my inteliMac, following Dan’s idiotproof  
instructions at hivelogic.  
I had previously done this on my son’s iBook some time ago and got stuck  
half-way through the Apple tutorial, with password issues, when  
installing MySQL. I only had part-time access to the iBook. My CRT iMac  
at the time would not read the ruby forums as it was running 10.1. We  
were also on dialup which made downloading XCode 2 non-trivial ( dropped  
out half-way through after 24hrs downloading) and I had to give up.  
I felt at the time it was an issue to do with working from a non-admin  
user in a multiple user set-up.  
Now I am stuck at the sudo make install point of installing the  
updated ruby version. Terminal will not accept any of my passwords. I am  
back in my ordinary user. I had password(s) rejected at the first sudo  
of the hivelogic narrative, so I went into NetInfo, set a root password  
and created the src file from the admin user. Pardon me for going back  
into my ordinary user but that is where all my stuff is and where I  
usually work from.  
I have used Macs for 7years, and though I have not worked much in the  
terminal much, we are not total \*nix virgins.  
When sudoing from Terminal and it asks for password, does it mean root  
pw or admin pw?  
Can some pigeon-blooded gemstoner offer some sage advice as to the  
proper protocol for building R on R in a multiple user set-up, or  
perhaps tell me where I have screwed up?  
Also I am still using XCode 2.3. Do I absolutely need 2.4 right now, as  
we’re pushing our broadband data cap.  
My humble apologies if this is naiive, trivial, imprecise, wordy, or all  
of the above.  
John.

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**Author:** ![captaffy](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/f04885/32.png) [@captaffy](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/captaffy)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2007, 3:50am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/help-for-vintage-ruby-doobie-newbie/84412/2 "2007-02-04T03:50:46Z")

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I believe to use sudo, you have to be an administrator of the system.  
Your normal user does not have access to sudo. The password to enter  
with sudo is the user’s password.

So, if you’re logged in with the user “zomguser” and “zomguser”'s  
password is “hi2u”. zomguser has to be an administrator and when you  
type sudo enter “hi2u”.

-carl

On 2/3/07, John S. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote:

> user in a multiple user set-up.  
> pw or admin pw?  
> Posted via [http://www.ruby-forum.com/](http://www.ruby-forum.com/).
> 
> >

–  
EPA Rating: 3000 Lines of Code / Gallon (of coffee)

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**Author:** ![captaffy](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/f04885/32.png) [@captaffy](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/captaffy)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2007, 5:24am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/help-for-vintage-ruby-doobie-newbie/84412/3 "2007-02-04T05:24:54Z")

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Carl L. wrote:

> I believe to use sudo, you have to be an administrator of the system.  
> Your normal user does not have access to sudo. The password to enter  
> with sudo is the user’s password.
> 
> So, if you’re logged in with the user “zomguser” and “zomguser”'s  
> password is “hi2u”. zomguser has to be an administrator and when you  
> type sudo enter “hi2u”.
> 
> -carl
> 
> On 2/3/07, John S. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote:
> 
> > user in a multiple user set-up.  
> > pw or admin pw?  
> > Posted via [http://www.ruby-forum.com/](http://www.ruby-forum.com/).
> > 
> > >
> 
> –  
> EPA Rating: 3000 Lines of Code / Gallon (of coffee)  
> Thanks Carl  
> You are correct. When I posted I was stuck with Terminal open in both  
> users.  
> I eventually realised I couldn’t do it from an ordinary user and quit  
> that session.  
> Then I found that in my admin Terminal session I was in the wrong  
> directory.  
> I backed out and then retraced my steps. I have now successfully built R  
> on R.  
> Thanks again  
> John
