# Has anyoune tried Red Sun **URL:** \ **Category:** Ruby\ **Created:** [August 4, 2009, 8:05pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/has-anyoune-tried-red-sun/173196 "2009-08-04T20:05:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![orenshani](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/o/e47c2d/32.png) [@orenshani](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/orenshani)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 8:05pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/has-anyoune-tried-red-sun/173196/1 "2009-08-04T20:05:18Z")
Hi All, Have anyone tried the Red Sun Flash Ruby VM? > **[GitHub - jonathanbranam/redsun: Red Sun - Ruby to Flash compiler and framework](https://github.com/jonathanbranam/redsun/tree/master)** > > master It looks like a great concept, does anyone here have any experience with it? Thanks, Oren ---
**Author:** ![orenshani](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/o/e47c2d/32.png) [@orenshani](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/orenshani)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 1:20am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/has-anyoune-tried-red-sun/173196/2 "2009-08-05T01:20:40Z")
Oren S. wrote: > Have anyone tried the Red Sun Flash Ruby VM? > > [GitHub - jonathanbranam/redsun: Red Sun - Ruby to Flash compiler and framework](http://github.com/jonathanbranam/redsun/tree/master) > > It looks like a great concept, does anyone here have any experience with > it? Judging by the commit history, it looks rather dead, unfortunately. jwm ---
**Author:** ![orenshani](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/o/e47c2d/32.png) [@orenshani](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/orenshani)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 11:57am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/has-anyoune-tried-red-sun/173196/3 "2009-08-05T11:57:11Z")
Jörg W Mittag wrote: > Oren S. wrote: > > > Have anyone tried the Red Sun Flash Ruby VM? > > > > [GitHub - jonathanbranam/redsun: Red Sun - Ruby to Flash compiler and framework](http://github.com/jonathanbranam/redsun/tree/master) > > > > It looks like a great concept, does anyone here have any experience with > > it? > > Judging by the commit history, it looks rather dead, unfortunately. > > jwm Yea, I thought so too… Shame… Do you happen to know of any other way to use Ruby with a Flash-based gui? Thanks, Oren ---
**Author:** ![orenshani](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/o/e47c2d/32.png) [@orenshani](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/orenshani)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 8:30pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/has-anyoune-tried-red-sun/173196/4 "2009-08-05T20:30:49Z")
Oren S. wrote: > Jörg W Mittag wrote: > > > Oren S. wrote: > > > > > Have anyone tried the Red Sun Flash Ruby VM? > > > > > > [GitHub - jonathanbranam/redsun: Red Sun - Ruby to Flash compiler and framework](http://github.com/jonathanbranam/redsun/tree/master) > > > > > > It looks like a great concept, does anyone here have any experience with > > > it? > > > > Judging by the commit history, it looks rather dead, unfortunately. > > > > jwm > > Yea, I thought so too… Shame… > > Do you happen to know of any other way to use Ruby with a Flash-based > gui? > > Thanks, > > Oren Yes, unfortunately I had very little interest in Red Sun either from the Ruby and Flash communities or from a standpoint of having sponsorship of my work on it. It was a good project that I did when I had free time, but that is not sustainable in the long run. The main drawback of it is that there is no interpreter or compiler, so you have to either precompile or have a server running to do your compilation. The state of the code is also very much in infancy. There is little accurate garbage collection of the stack due to a few calls in the Ruby VM where it actually makes a method call with data beneath the current stack on it as valid. I mean the internal Ruby stack, not the program call stack. These could be fixed, I’m sure, but I ran into complications with my attempt to make the VM stackless. The other issue is that the Ruby core library is written almost entirely in C and requires porting for even the most basic functionality. It would be possible to use some of Rubinius’ core library, but even Rubinius has stopped implementing most of it in Ruby and does it in C++ now. I have a hope to implement a lighter and smaller dynamic language in ActionScript and I have implemented a subset of Lisp already, but again this is just something I do in my free time and it is difficult to sustain. Thanks for the interest, however! -Jonathan ---
**Author:** ![orenshani](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/o/e47c2d/32.png) [@orenshani](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/orenshani)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 12:43pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/has-anyoune-tried-red-sun/173196/5 "2009-08-05T12:43:50Z")
Oren S. wrote: > Do you happen to know of any other way to use Ruby with a Flash-based > gui? Project Sprouts might be of interest to you: [http://rubyforge.org/projects/sprout](http://rubyforge.org/projects/sprout)