# Haml **URL:** \ **Category:** Ruby\ **Created:** [December 9, 2009, 12:15am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/haml/179972 "2009-12-09T00:15:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Rajinder\_Y](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/91b2a8/32.png) [@Rajinder\_Y](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Rajinder_Y)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2009, 12:15am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/haml/179972/1 "2009-12-09T00:15:22Z")
I am starting to look at haml and was wondering if there is anything else like this out there that make working with html easier? – Kind Regards, Rajinder Y. [http://DevMentor.org](http://DevMentor.org) Do Good! - Share Freely ---
**Author:** ![Rajinder\_Y](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/91b2a8/32.png) [@Rajinder\_Y](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Rajinder_Y)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2009, 3:38am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/haml/179972/2 "2009-12-09T03:38:29Z")
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 11:14 PM, Rajinder Y. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > I am starting to look at haml and was wondering if there is anything else > like this out there that make working with html easier? Rajinder, there are quite a few options, but Haml is definitely the most popular of the alternatives. By alternative, I mean it in the sense that you implied - that it changes how you construct HTML. There are some alternatives to Erb, like Erubis, that make your rendering faster, but you are still using Erb syntax (HTML with ruby code in escapes). Markaby was an earlier attempt to accomplish the same things as Haml, though I think Haml has stolen its marketshare. There are also probably a few plugins that let you use Markdown or Textile syntax for your HTML authoring. You might want to check out Webby to see some options. Its a static site generator, but it has support for a whole laundry list of templating options. regards, Richard ---
**Author:** ![Rajinder\_Y](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/91b2a8/32.png) [@Rajinder\_Y](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Rajinder_Y)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2009, 5:19am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/haml/179972/3 "2009-12-09T05:19:44Z")
There are some Indonesian fellows working on W2tags ([GitHub - wharsojo/w2tags: w2tags is the way to tags, a short cut / macros. when it do it use some patern define in files (HOT file) to produce tags from minimal code to become full fledge tags](http://github.com/wharsojo/w2tags)) I’m don’t know how many people use it, but if you’re looking for alternatives maybe you can check it out. ---
**Author:** ![Rajinder\_Y](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/91b2a8/32.png) [@Rajinder\_Y](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Rajinder_Y)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2009, 5:36am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/haml/179972/4 "2009-12-09T05:36:07Z")
On Dec 8, 4:14 pm, Rajinder Y. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > I am starting to look at haml and was wondering if there is anything > else like this out there that make working with html easier? You can look at the list of templating engines supported by Ramaze: [http://ramaze.net/features](http://ramaze.net/features) ---
**Author:** ![Rajinder\_Y](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/91b2a8/32.png) [@Rajinder\_Y](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Rajinder_Y)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2009, 10:25am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/haml/179972/5 "2009-12-09T10:25:51Z")
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Rajinder Y. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > I will take a closer look at Webby. Not sure what it is suited for by > reading the website right now, but I am sure the light-bulb will go on > eventually =) what webby lets you do is maintain a website as a tree of static template files on your local directory. your web dev workflow goes 1. make changes to templates 2. compile the templates into a website 3. test locally 4. when satisfied, push the static html files to your remote site it gives you the best of both worlds - templating and code reuse like you get in dynamic sites, but no need to have the html actually generated on your webserver. martin ---
**Author:** ![Rajinder\_Y](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/91b2a8/32.png) [@Rajinder\_Y](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Rajinder_Y)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2009, 12:54pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/haml/179972/6 "2009-12-09T12:54:29Z")
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Rajinder Y. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > [http://ruby-toolbox.com/categories/template\_languages.html](http://ruby-toolbox.com/categories/template_languages.html) Lists ten templating languages, links to repos, home pages, docs, news, and gives a brief summary / installation command / popularity comparison for each. ---
**Author:** ![Rajinder\_Y](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/91b2a8/32.png) [@Rajinder\_Y](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Rajinder_Y)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2009, 7:34am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/haml/179972/7 "2009-12-09T07:34:56Z")
Richard C. wrote: > On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 11:14 PM, Rajinder Y. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > > > I am starting to look at haml and was wondering if there is anything else > > like this out there that make working with html easier? > > Rajinder, > there are quite a few options, but Haml is definitely the most popular > of the alternatives. Hi Richard, thanks for the feedback. I just wanted to get a sense of what is out there and is the most popular. You covered it pretty good with your reply. I like haml, it was somewhat easy to get up and going after reading it’s FAQ. I will take a closer look at Webby. Not sure what it is suited for by reading the website right now, but I am sure the light-bulb will go on eventually =) > Markdown or Textile syntax for your HTML authoring. – Kind Regards, Rajinder Y. [http://DevMentor.org](http://DevMentor.org) Do Good! - Share Freely ---
**Author:** ![Rajinder\_Y](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/91b2a8/32.png) [@Rajinder\_Y](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Rajinder_Y)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2009, 8:42am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/haml/179972/8 "2009-12-10T08:42:38Z")
Josh C. wrote: > > Do Good! - Share Freely > > [http://ruby-toolbox.com/categories/template\_languages.html](http://ruby-toolbox.com/categories/template_languages.html) Hi Josh, this is an excellent link, thanks! > Lists ten templating languages, links to repos, home pages, docs, news, and > gives a brief summary / installation command / popularity comparison for > each. – Kind Regards, Rajinder Y. [http://DevMentor.org](http://DevMentor.org) Do Good! - Share Freely ---
**Author:** ![Rajinder\_Y](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/91b2a8/32.png) [@Rajinder\_Y](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Rajinder_Y)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2009, 8:42am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/haml/179972/9 "2009-12-10T08:42:38Z")
Martin DeMello wrote: > 1. test locally > 2. when satisfied, push the static html files to your remote site > > it gives you the best of both worlds - templating and code reuse like > you get in dynamic sites, but no need to have the html actually > generated on your webserver. > > martin Hi Martin, Thanks for clearing up the features and benefits of Webby. The Webby team should take what you just said and post in on their site. – Kind Regards, Rajinder Y. [http://DevMentor.org](http://DevMentor.org) Do Good! - Share Freely