# GSoC: Multiple students working on an idea

**URL:** <https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/gsoc-multiple-students-working-on-an-idea/239662>\
**Category:** GNU Radio\
**Created:** [March 9, 2014, 7:32pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/gsoc-multiple-students-working-on-an-idea/239662 "2014-03-09T19:32:15Z")\
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**Post date:** [March 9, 2014, 7:32pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/gsoc-multiple-students-working-on-an-idea/239662/1 "2014-03-09T19:32:15Z")

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Hi GNU Radio discussers,

I’m the mentor for the signal analysis tool on the GNU Radio GSoC ideas  
page. I was contacted by two students interested in working on the  
project. They know each other, go to the same school, and are in my home  
town – a very nice setup! A recent message on this list asked if  
multiple students could receive a GSoC stipend for working on a single  
idea/project. The answer is apparently “no” according to the GSoC FAQ.  
However, there’s this answer on the FAQ as well:

“11. What happens if two students are accepted to work on the same  
project, e.g. from an organization’s Ideas list?”

“That’s fine, a little duplication is par for the course in open  
source.”

I take this to mean I should have both students submit proposals, and  
that there’s a possibility both of them will be selected to work on the  
project. Does that sound right? I’m guessing my project idea is so  
obscure there’s very little chance of Google wanting to dedicate _two_  
students to it. But it seems like that’s the only way both students will  
be able to receive a stipend. Bummer…

- Jared

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**Author:** ![Jared\_B](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/59ef9b/32.png) [@Jared\_B](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Jared_B)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2014, 7:52pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/gsoc-multiple-students-working-on-an-idea/239662/2 "2014-03-09T19:52:57Z")

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Hi Jared,

Am 09.03.2014 19:30, schrieb Jared B.:

> obscure there’s very little chance of Google wanting to dedicate  
> _two_  
> students to it. But it seems like that’s the only way both students  
> will be able to receive a stipend. Bummer…

Google only tells us how many slots for students we get, they don’t  
care about  
how we allocate them to projects. I was a mentor for two LDPC-related  
projects  
last year. The projects covered the same area and we decided to split  
the work  
along the lines of different encoding/decoding algorithms. I think your  
proposal could be handled in a similar way.

Jens

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**Author:** ![Jared\_B](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/59ef9b/32.png) [@Jared\_B](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Jared_B)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2014, 7:57pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/gsoc-multiple-students-working-on-an-idea/239662/3 "2014-03-09T19:57:13Z")

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Hi All,

I am a Masters computing student (software focused) from Edinburgh,  
Scotland. I am looking to take part in GSoC this year. I am particularly  
interested in the Radar Toolbox idea. I am also looking to do my masters  
thesis on SDR in Maritime Search and Rescue and have experience in this  
area as a Lifeboat helmsman here in the UK.

In addition to the idea I’d like to investigate:

1. Whether there is a way of implementing an algorithm to reduce the  
noise  
of radar response in order to assist with target finding (thinking about  
noise from waves at sea).

2. Implementation on mobile device (Android).

Hope you can put me in touch with relevant mentor.

Best Wishes,  
Niall

On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Jared B. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid)  
wrote:

> "11. What happens if two students are accepted to work on the same
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Niall

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**Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 10:50am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/gsoc-multiple-students-working-on-an-idea/239662/4 "2014-03-10T10:50:37Z")

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On 03/09/2014 07:51 PM, Jens E. wrote:

> projects  
> last year. The projects covered the same area and we decided to split  
> the work  
> along the lines of different encoding/decoding algorithms. I think your  
> proposal could be handled in a similar way.

Exactly – provided that:

- You are willing to mentor two students
- They both individually apply _and_ are among the best applicants
- You can find different milestones for each student, that are each  
verifiable by any outsider

In theory, the proposals can overlap a lot, since, in theory, both  
students might not know of each other’s. However, in this case, I  
recommend some prior splitting up of tasks.

Martin

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**Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 10:54am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/gsoc-multiple-students-working-on-an-idea/239662/5 "2014-03-10T10:54:16Z")

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On 03/09/2014 07:54 PM, Niall Grant wrote:

> I am a Masters computing student (software focused) from Edinburgh,  
> Scotland. I am looking to take part in GSoC this year. I am particularly  
> interested in the Radar Toolbox idea. I am also looking to do my masters  
> thesis on SDR in Maritime Search and Rescue and have experience in this  
> area as a Lifeboat helmsman here in the UK.

That is probably the first time any GSoC applicant has cited that as a  
skill 🙂

> In addition to the idea I’d like to investigate:
> 
> 1. Whether there is a way of implementing an algorithm to reduce the  
> noise of radar response in order to assist with target finding (thinking  
> about noise from waves at sea).

Do you already have an algorithm, or do you want to come up with one?  
(See the comment on this not being the “summer of research”).

> 1. Implementation on mobile device (Android).

That’s a tall order on top of what you already plan to do.

> Hope you can put me in touch with relevant mentor.

That would be me. That said, wait for the next GSoC announcement I will  
be putting out (soon).

M

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**Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 2:03pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/gsoc-multiple-students-working-on-an-idea/239662/6 "2014-03-10T14:03:20Z")

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On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 5:53 AM, Martin B. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid)  
wrote:

> > In addition to the idea I’d like to investigate:  
> > That’s a tall order on top of what you already plan to do.  
> > Yes. There is interest in the community for this, but I think it’s  
> > outside the range of a GSoC project unless it was /the/ goal of the  
> > GSoC project. I think by next year we can have more interesting  
> > Android-based projects to discuss.

Tom
