# Getting really ticked off **URL:** \ **Category:** Ruby\ **Created:** [May 16, 2006, 11:51pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/getting-really-ticked-off/60717 "2006-05-16T23:51:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![byrnejb](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/d2c977/32.png) [@byrnejb](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/byrnejb)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2006, 11:51pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/getting-really-ticked-off/60717/1 "2006-05-16T23:51:31Z")
Can the way-off-topic copyright thread go offline, or to some other list? Thanks, – James B. [http://www.ruby-doc.org](http://www.ruby-doc.org) - Ruby Help & Documentation [Ruby Code & Style](http://www.artima.com/rubycs/) - The Journal By & For Rubyists [http://www.rubystuff.com](http://www.rubystuff.com) - The Ruby Store for Ruby Stuff [http://www.30secondrule.com](http://www.30secondrule.com) - Building Better Tools ---
**Author:** ![byrnejb](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/d2c977/32.png) [@byrnejb](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/byrnejb)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2006, 11:57pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/getting-really-ticked-off/60717/2 "2006-05-16T23:57:38Z")
+1 ---
**Author:** ![byrnejb](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/d2c977/32.png) [@byrnejb](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/byrnejb)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2006, 11:57pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/getting-really-ticked-off/60717/3 "2006-05-16T23:57:45Z")
James B. wrote: > Can the way-off-topic copyright thread go offline, or to some other list? > > Thanks, I second that! ---
**Author:** ![byrnejb](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/d2c977/32.png) [@byrnejb](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/byrnejb)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2006, 12:04am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/getting-really-ticked-off/60717/4 "2006-05-17T00:04:03Z")
Giles is stealing James’ opinion! +2 (to taking it offline, not to stealing – whoops there I go again, stealing) Steve ---
**Author:** ![byrnejb](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/d2c977/32.png) [@byrnejb](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/byrnejb)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2006, 12:22am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/getting-really-ticked-off/60717/5 "2006-05-17T00:22:37Z")
James B. wrote: > Can the way-off-topic copyright thread go offline, or to some other list? Hey, I’ve patented the concept of going offline! (+1) ---
**Author:** ![byrnejb](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/d2c977/32.png) [@byrnejb](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/byrnejb)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2006, 7:51am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/getting-really-ticked-off/60717/6 "2006-05-17T07:51:25Z")
On 5/16/06, Stephen W. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > James B. wrote: > > > Can the way-off-topic copyright thread go offline, or to some other list? > > Why this even needs to be said is a mystery. Such a thread should have > > never started – it’s one thing for a thread to veer off-topic, but > > another for intentionally inflammatory flamebait to thrown onto the list. Excuse the hell out of you. I happen to be thoroughly pissed off for a friend who _just_ had something published and already someone is advocating actions which would deprive him of his legitimately deserved royalties for that publication. This isn’t flamebait: this is putting people on notice. I, frankly, don’t want low-life thieves in the Ruby community, and that’s what I consider the recommended action. > So to make my own post useful, I’ll take my “me too” (yuck, let’s stop > +1 posts too eh?) post a step further and ask that everyone _please_ be > considerate of keeping posts topical. Right. It is _certainly_ on-topic to Ruby-talk to complain when a community member’s contributions are being threatened by short-sighted asinine selfish behaviour. It’s called “policing the community.” > I certainly appreciate it, and I’m sure many others will as well. I certainly don’t appreciate your asinine responses here and elsethread. If you have an issue with me, take it up directly with me – but _don’t_ try to coat yourself as doing the right thing in this, not with your responses in this matter. -austin ---
**Author:** ![byrnejb](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/d2c977/32.png) [@byrnejb](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/byrnejb)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2006, 9:56am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/getting-really-ticked-off/60717/7 "2006-05-17T09:56:13Z")
On 5/17/06, Austin Z. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > On 5/16/06, Stephen W. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > > > James B. wrote: > > > > > Can the way-off-topic copyright thread go offline, or to some other list? > > > Why this even needs to be said is a mystery. Such a thread should have > > > never started – it’s one thing for a thread to veer off-topic, but > > > another for intentionally inflammatory flamebait to thrown onto the list. > > Excuse the hell out of you. Whoa there. Let’s all relax a bit here. 🙂 I think we all can agree that it’s good that this topic came up, and hopefully it helped a few folks think through a few issues. The trouble of course happens when thread(s) like these go on and on and start to take away from the main focus of the list, which is arguably about using Ruby. In these cases, a gentle reminder that things are getting off-topic isn’t such a bad thing (and of course, as on any big ML, responses that you perceive as rude can easily be ignored). It’s very common to reply to someone off-list to discuss a possibly-off-topic post of theirs. Even CC’ing other interested parties could be used (in moderation). > [snip] here and elsethread. [snip] Ok, now that word needs to make it into the jargon lexicon. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![byrnejb](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/d2c977/32.png) [@byrnejb](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/byrnejb)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2006, 1:12am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/getting-really-ticked-off/60717/8 "2006-05-17T01:12:00Z")
James B. wrote: > Can the way-off-topic copyright thread go offline, or to some other list? Why this even needs to be said is a mystery. Such a thread should have never started – it’s one thing for a thread to veer off-topic, but another for intentionally inflammatory flamebait to thrown onto the list. So to make my own post useful, I’ll take my “me too” (yuck, let’s stop +1 posts too eh?) post a step further and ask that everyone _please_ be considerate of keeping posts topical. I certainly appreciate it, and I’m sure many others will as well. Relax a bit… Stay happy! –Steve