# Gem vs Source

**URL:** <https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/gem-vs-source/90257>\
**Category:** Radiant CMS\
**Created:** [March 27, 2007, 3:06am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/gem-vs-source/90257 "2007-03-27T03:06:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![walterdavis](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/a587f6/32.png) [@walterdavis](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/walterdavis)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2007, 3:06am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/gem-vs-source/90257/1 "2007-03-27T03:06:28Z")

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I wanted to try out the newest Radiant, so I used gem, as prompted on  
the rc2 page of the blog. When I run the radiant -d command, as noted  
in step 3, I get a bastard rails directory, without app or lib or any  
of the places where code can be written. How do I go about getting the  
entire set of folders, such as you get when you simply download the  
source and run it? Is there a radiant command that gives you a complete  
ready to customize application?

Thanks in advance,

Walter

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**Author:** ![walterdavis](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/a587f6/32.png) [@walterdavis](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/walterdavis)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2007, 3:25am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/gem-vs-source/90257/2 "2007-03-27T03:25:30Z")

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Walter Lee D. wrote:

> I wanted to try out the newest Radiant, so I used gem, as prompted on  
> the rc2 page of the blog. When I run the radiant -d command, as noted  
> in step 3, I get a bastard rails directory, without app or lib or any  
> of the places where code can be written. How do I go about getting the  
> entire set of folders, such as you get when you simply download the  
> source and run it? Is there a radiant command that gives you a complete  
> ready to customize application?

Nope. But you can unpack the gem once it is installed:

gem unpack radiant

The final release will also be available in Zip and Tar format.

–  
John L.  
[http://wiseheartdesign.com](http://wiseheartdesign.com)

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**Author:** ![walterdavis](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/a587f6/32.png) [@walterdavis](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/walterdavis)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2007, 3:28am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/gem-vs-source/90257/3 "2007-03-27T03:28:30Z")

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On Mar 26, 2007, at 9:24 PM, John W. Long wrote:

> Nope. But you can unpack the gem once it is installed:
> 
> gem unpack radiant
> 
> The final release will also be available in Zip and Tar format.

gray:~ waltd$ gem unpack radiant  
ERROR: While executing gem … (Gem::Exception)  
Cannot load gem at  
[/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/cache/radiant-0.6.0.gem]

Ditto if I use sudo. Any ideas?

Walter

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**Author:** ![walterdavis](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/a587f6/32.png) [@walterdavis](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/walterdavis)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2007, 3:32am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/gem-vs-source/90257/4 "2007-03-27T03:32:30Z")

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On Mar 26, 2007, at 9:27 PM, Walter Lee D. wrote:

> > > source and run it? Is there a radiant command that gives you a  
> > > gray:~ waltd$ gem unpack radiant  
> > > ERROR: While executing gem … (Gem::Exception)  
> > > Cannot load gem at  
> > > [/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/cache/radiant-0.6.0.gem]
> 
> Ditto if I use sudo. Any ideas?
> 
> Walter

I did a symlink to the filename it wanted, and got it to unpack – now,  
where did it go?

Walter

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**Author:** ![walterdavis](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/a587f6/32.png) [@walterdavis](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/walterdavis)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2007, 3:49am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/gem-vs-source/90257/5 "2007-03-27T03:49:32Z")

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On Mar 26, 2007, at 9:31 PM, Walter Lee D. wrote:

> > > > noted
> > 
> > Ditto if I use sudo. Any ideas?
> > 
> > Walter
> 
> I did a symlink to the filename it wanted, and got it to unpack – now,  
> where did it go?
> 
> Walter

Okay, got it to unpack, found it, and now none of the permissions or  
much else seem to be right – all I get when I try to run it or rake it  
is a bunch of permission errors. Much stumpage here.

Walter
