# Front End to ROR. Did anybody like Joomla or Drupal?

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**Category:** Rails\
**Created:** [November 29, 2007, 6:09pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/front-end-to-ror-did-anybody-like-joomla-or-drupal/121655 "2007-11-29T18:09:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![gemblon](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/ee59a6/32.png) [@gemblon](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/gemblon)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2007, 6:09pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/front-end-to-ror-did-anybody-like-joomla-or-drupal/121655/1 "2007-11-29T18:09:15Z")

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Has anybody ever used Joomla! or Drupal as a front end to ROR? I was  
thinking of Drupal for this project for the content, and ROR for the  
business rules and data.

Or would you recommend Joomla!?

I will stuff it in my public\_html directory. lol. sounds fun.

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**Post date:** [November 29, 2007, 7:43pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/front-end-to-ror-did-anybody-like-joomla-or-drupal/121655/2 "2007-11-29T19:43:39Z")

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You’re talking about mixing php with a Rails application.

It can be done but it’s really painful. Once you are serving Rails apps,  
any  
files in the Rails public/ folder need to be called by their full name.  
So,  
if you have a PHP script that makes a call to /files/ instead of  
/files/index.php then it will fail. A fair amount of scripts do that  
kind of  
linking.

I would say it’s really not worth it, but if you do decide to try it,  
good  
luck, and be sure to blog about it so we can all follow your progress.

On Nov 29, 2007 11:09 AM, Trent B. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid)

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**Post date:** [November 29, 2007, 8:03pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/front-end-to-ror-did-anybody-like-joomla-or-drupal/121655/3 "2007-11-29T20:03:27Z")

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For about a year, I’ve been mulling over creating a Roomla – maybe  
using Radiant as a jumping off point.

If anyone’s interested in launching that kind of open source project,  
I’d participate.

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**Post date:** [November 29, 2007, 8:12pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/front-end-to-ror-did-anybody-like-joomla-or-drupal/121655/4 "2007-11-29T20:12:17Z")

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Cody S. wrote:

> For about a year, I’ve been mulling over creating a Roomla – maybe  
> using Radiant as a jumping off point.
> 
> If anyone’s interested in launching that kind of open source project,  
> I’d participate.

Ok, but do I get a Mac if I do it?  
And, can I be in one of those rails envy video’s?

And from what I understand, most people start these projects,  
and leave fast, unless it is done with for a paying job. lol.

got milk? pass the cookies.

how many hours do you think it would take? or years? decades.  
i am old. will we be done before i die?

can we make up our own name instead of Joomla!? the name does not go  
well with my coding sweaters 🙂

who is gonna be the project leader?

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**Post date:** [November 29, 2007, 9:25pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/front-end-to-ror-did-anybody-like-joomla-or-drupal/121655/5 "2007-11-29T21:25:49Z")

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Trent B. wrote:

> Ok, but do I get a Mac if I do it?

No! At least unless I get one also.

> And, can I be in one of those rails envy video’s?

Hmm, do you look like the MS guy or the Mac guy? I look a little more  
like the MS guy, btw.

> And from what I understand, most people start these projects,  
> and leave fast, unless it is done with for a paying job. lol.

Well, since I plan on consuming my own Koolaid, it won’t die as long as  
I’m hosting websites. My main line of business is based on Joomla, but  
I’m not a PHP fan. I’d rather use Ruby & Rails any day. So, in a way  
it is for a paid job also and will lead to other paid jobs. 🙂

> got milk? pass the cookies.

I’m err, on a diet. A beer diet.

> how many hours do you think it would take? or years? decades.  
> i am old. will we be done before i die?

Pass the walkers please. Since it would be a living project, it would  
last indefinitely. How long would it take? That depends on how skilled  
we are as Ruby/Rails developers and how much time we can commit.

It would take less time than the initial launch of Mambo for many  
reason. Getting more than two developers involved would also,  
obviously. I wouldn’t want it to be a going-no-where open source  
project.

> can we make up our own name instead of Joomla!? the name does not go  
> well with my coding sweaters 🙂

Yes, we’d pick a new name, but sweaters must a red/white motif.

> who is gonna be the project leader?

Someone more experienced than me. I’m simply a developer with a  
self-serving motive. I’m a senior developer but not in Ruby or Rails  
which might be a disadvantage unless I ran the project and relied  
heavily on experienced Ruby developers to keep me out of trouble. If I  
have a say, it’d be published under the MIT license though.

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**Post date:** [November 29, 2007, 11:03pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/front-end-to-ror-did-anybody-like-joomla-or-drupal/121655/6 "2007-11-29T23:03:01Z")

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Anyone else interested in joining a massive undertaking?

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**Post date:** [November 29, 2007, 9:59pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/front-end-to-ror-did-anybody-like-joomla-or-drupal/121655/7 "2007-11-29T21:59:39Z")

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Cody S. wrote:

> Trent B. wrote:
> 
> > Ok, but do I get a Mac if I do it?
> 
> No! At least unless I get one also.
> 
> > And, can I be in one of those rails envy video’s?
> 
> Hmm, do you look like the MS guy or the Mac guy? I look a little more  
> like the MS guy, btw.
> 
> > And from what I understand, most people start these projects,  
> > and leave fast, unless it is done with for a paying job. lol.
> 
> Well, since I plan on consuming my own Koolaid, it won’t die as long as  
> I’m hosting websites. My main line of business is based on Joomla, but  
> I’m not a PHP fan. I’d rather use Ruby & Rails any day. So, in a way  
> it is for a paid job also and will lead to other paid jobs. 🙂
> 
> > got milk? pass the cookies.
> 
> I’m err, on a diet. A beer diet.
> 
> > how many hours do you think it would take? or years? decades.  
> > i am old. will we be done before i die?
> 
> Pass the walkers please. Since it would be a living project, it would  
> last indefinitely. How long would it take? That depends on how skilled  
> we are as Ruby/Rails developers and how much time we can commit.
> 
> It would take less time than the initial launch of Mambo for many  
> reason. Getting more than two developers involved would also,  
> obviously. I wouldn’t want it to be a going-no-where open source  
> project.
> 
> > can we make up our own name instead of Joomla!? the name does not go  
> > well with my coding sweaters 🙂
> 
> Yes, we’d pick a new name, but sweaters must a red/white motif.
> 
> > who is gonna be the project leader?
> 
> Someone more experienced than me. I’m simply a developer with a  
> self-serving motive. I’m a senior developer but not in Ruby or Rails  
> which might be a disadvantage unless I ran the project and relied  
> heavily on experienced Ruby developers to keep me out of trouble. If I  
> have a say, it’d be published under the MIT license though.

ok, write me at gemblon -at- yahoo -dot- com.

i am not an experienced ROR. I was a java guy, that just started  
playing with Joomla! too. you come up with 3 names, and i will pick  
one. i will code it, or figure out how. you make sure it is cool. 🙂  
and spice it up.

i have written a purely dynamic, meta data based, data driven, sql  
based, framework in java swing, where ALL the screens are generated on  
the fly at runtime, from the meta data in a database. ALL the sql was  
auto-generated, at runtime. won a gov’s award. it has self healing and  
time expiring record locking. but, this be cooler.

MIT lic is ok.

do i host it on my companies web site, or do we make a new one?

email me if interested.

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**Post date:** [November 30, 2007, 11:13am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/front-end-to-ror-did-anybody-like-joomla-or-drupal/121655/8 "2007-11-30T11:13:20Z")

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Trent B. wrote:

> Has anybody ever used Joomla! or Drupal as a front end to ROR? I was  
> thinking of Drupal for this project for the content, and ROR for the  
> business rules and data.
> 
> Or would you recommend Joomla!?
> 
> I will stuff it in my public\_html directory. lol. sounds fun.

Hi.

We are currently working a cms component called palani.  
maybe this could help you somehow:

[http://code.google.com/p/palani/](http://code.google.com/p/palani/)

palani is inspired by some concepts used in other cms systems.

greetings

olivier

ps: we are looking for code developers for palani
