# Fascism is coming to Internet **URL:** \ **Category:** Rails\ **Created:** [February 23, 2010, 5:34pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/fascism-is-coming-to-internet/183994 "2010-02-23T17:34:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Joan\_M](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/e47c2d/32.png) [@Joan\_M](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Joan_M)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 5:34pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/fascism-is-coming-to-internet/183994/1 "2010-02-23T17:34:05Z")
_Sorry by this off topic message, but this is too important_ Fascism is coming fastly to Internet because is the only communication way that governements (managed by the bank and multinationals) cann’t control > **[ACTA "internet enforcement" chapter leaks | Boing Boing](https://boingboing.net/2010/02/21/acta-internet-enforc.html)** > > Someone has uploaded a PDF to a Google Group that is claimed to be the proposal for Internet copyright enforcement that the USA has put forward for ACTA, the secret copyright treaty whose seventh r… ---
**Author:** ![Joan\_M](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/e47c2d/32.png) [@Joan\_M](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Joan_M)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 9:37pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/fascism-is-coming-to-internet/183994/2 "2010-02-23T21:37:04Z")
I call Internet Hitler! Who wants to be my Goebbels? Also, we need someone to build the concentration camps for Furries. Jarin ---
**Author:** ![Joan\_M](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/e47c2d/32.png) [@Joan\_M](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Joan_M)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 10:53pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/fascism-is-coming-to-internet/183994/3 "2010-02-23T22:53:12Z")
I’m in! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Joan\_M](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/e47c2d/32.png) [@Joan\_M](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Joan_M)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 11:16pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/fascism-is-coming-to-internet/183994/4 "2010-02-23T23:16:02Z")
To be honest, the language sounds quite ambiguous… Things like “knowing” may not be as easy to define as you think… your example of Xerox ‘knowing’ that their machines are being used for copyright infringement doesn’t cut it. To know is, in some manner, to be witness, if you have not seen it happen you can’t know. You can “believe” that copyright infringement happens at Kinkos, but you don’t necessarily “know”. I haven’t read the whole things, but it sound like political speak so far: “intentionally ambiguous” to leave a lot of wiggle room… ---
**Author:** ![Joan\_M](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/e47c2d/32.png) [@Joan\_M](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Joan_M)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2010, 3:49pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/fascism-is-coming-to-internet/183994/5 "2010-02-24T15:49:29Z")
On Feb 23, 4:44 pm, Victor S [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > far: “intentionally ambiguous” to leave a lot of wiggle room… > Exactly - the “fascism” rhetoric is a little overblown, but there’s > still a concern. Especially since, unlike the Xerox example, it’s > _technically_ possible for an ISP to “know” quite a bit more about > what users are doing. For example, would the treaty mandate deep- > packet inspection to catch filesharers? Maybe backdoors in encrypted > communications channels? Nobody knows, but the fact that even the > _text_ of the treaty has (apart from leaks) been secret doesn’t help > people feel comfortable about it… –Matt J.