# Does somebody use XCode on Mac for RoR instead of TextMate? **URL:** \ **Category:** Rails\ **Created:** [May 9, 2009, 9:55am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/does-somebody-use-xcode-on-mac-for-ror-instead-of-textmate/167556 "2009-05-09T09:55:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jianlin](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/e9bcb4/32.png) [@jianlin](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/jianlin)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2009, 9:55am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/does-somebody-use-xcode-on-mac-for-ror-instead-of-textmate/167556/1 "2009-05-09T09:55:11Z")
does somebody use XCode on Mac for RoR instead of TextMate? I wonder how is it compared to TextMate… TextMate uses the default font of Monaco… the Xcode screenshot on Wikipedia uses Courier… I wonder if Xcode looks as good as TextMate when the font is changed to Monaco as well? Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![jianlin](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/e9bcb4/32.png) [@jianlin](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/jianlin)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2009, 11:25am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/does-somebody-use-xcode-on-mac-for-ror-instead-of-textmate/167556/2 "2009-05-09T11:25:54Z")
Jian L. wrote: > does somebody use XCode on Mac for RoR instead of TextMate? I’ve tried it, and it’s OK, but you might be better off with jEdit or KomodoEdit. > I wonder > how is it compared to TextMate… TextMate uses the default font of > Monaco… the Xcode screenshot on Wikipedia uses Courier… I wonder if > Xcode looks as good as TextMate when the font is changed to Monaco as > well? Thank you. I think I had XCode using Monaco last time I worked with it. It looked fine. ## Best, Marnen Laibow-Koser [http://www.marnen.org](http://www.marnen.org) removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid ---
**Author:** ![jianlin](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/e9bcb4/32.png) [@jianlin](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/jianlin)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2009, 11:42am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/does-somebody-use-xcode-on-mac-for-ror-instead-of-textmate/167556/3 "2009-05-09T11:42:43Z")
On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 2:25 AM, Marnen Laibow-Koser \< removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid\> wrote: > > Xcode looks as good as TextMate when the font is changed to Monaco as > > well? Thank you. > > I think I had XCode using Monaco last time I worked with it. It looked > fine. > > ## Best, > > Marnen Laibow-Koser > [http://www.marnen.org](http://www.marnen.org) > removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid Jian, I use Xcode sometimes when I’m doing MacRuby development with Monaco font and a size of 14pt. Xcode allows you to change the font size as do most applications that allow you enter text. Good luck, -Conrad ---
**Author:** ![jianlin](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/e9bcb4/32.png) [@jianlin](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/jianlin)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2009, 11:46am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/does-somebody-use-xcode-on-mac-for-ror-instead-of-textmate/167556/4 "2009-05-09T11:46:42Z")
Conrad T. wrote: > Jian, I use Xcode sometimes when I’m doing MacRuby development with > Monaco font and a size of 14pt. Xcode allows you to change the font > size as > do most applications that allow you enter text. so there is no need to spend 39 euro to buy TextMate? I was wondering if other editors can open up a folder and put it on the left panel like TextMate does… that’s kind of handy for RoR development. ---
**Author:** ![jianlin](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/e9bcb4/32.png) [@jianlin](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/jianlin)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2009, 11:57am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/does-somebody-use-xcode-on-mac-for-ror-instead-of-textmate/167556/5 "2009-05-09T11:57:04Z")
On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 2:46 AM, Jian L. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid)wrote: > if other editors can open up a folder and put it on the left panel like > TextMate does… that’s kind of handy for RoR development. You can simply use whatever makes you happy. BTW, most editors have similar feature. -Conrad ---
**Author:** ![jianlin](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/e9bcb4/32.png) [@jianlin](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/jianlin)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2009, 12:01pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/does-somebody-use-xcode-on-mac-for-ror-instead-of-textmate/167556/6 "2009-05-09T12:01:54Z")
Jian L. wrote: > Conrad T. wrote: > > > Jian, I use Xcode sometimes when I’m doing MacRuby development with > > Monaco font and a size of 14pt. Xcode allows you to change the font > > size as > > do most applications that allow you enter text. > > so there is no need to spend 39 euro to buy TextMate? I was wondering > if other editors can open up a folder and put it on the left panel like > TextMate does… that’s kind of handy for RoR development. I think rails.vim and project will do that for you. Since Xcode is not able to properly indent braces used in this style: somefunc() { while true { ``` } ``` } I find it the most frustrating IDE I’ve ever used. That is just basic functionality that every IDE has to have. Not being able to get that right is pretty pathetic. So I try not to use Xcode for anything. ---
**Author:** ![jianlin](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/e9bcb4/32.png) [@jianlin](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/jianlin)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2009, 12:27pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/does-somebody-use-xcode-on-mac-for-ror-instead-of-textmate/167556/7 "2009-05-09T12:27:31Z")
On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 3:01 AM, 7stud – [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid)wrote: > > so there is no need to spend 39 euro to buy TextMate? I was wondering > > { > > } > } > > I find it the most frustrating IDE I’ve ever used. That is just basic > functionality that every IDE has to have. Not being able to get that > right is pretty pathetic. So I try not to use Xcode for anything. This is very easy to do in Xcode. Thus, I can easily do both the following: int someFunction() { … } or int someFunction() { … } The convention for braces in most C based languages (C, C++, Java) is int someFunction() { } Why? It allows you to save a line for each block of code. This is very similar to Ruby in this regard for both function and blocks. For example, def some\_function( some\_arguments ) some\_arguments.each do | argument | ``` ... ``` end end -Conrad ---
**Author:** ![jianlin](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/e9bcb4/32.png) [@jianlin](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/jianlin)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2009, 12:15pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/does-somebody-use-xcode-on-mac-for-ror-instead-of-textmate/167556/8 "2009-05-09T12:15:27Z")
by the way, i was using Notepad++ a lot on the PC, and almost want to just use that for anything… but it seems to have no way to open up a folder like TextMate does… so it is a bit inconvenient for RoR development.