# Does mongrel work with memcached? **URL:** \ **Category:** Rails\ **Created:** [August 20, 2007, 11:07am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/does-mongrel-work-with-memcached/112500 "2007-08-20T11:07:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![innr](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/ec9cab/32.png) [@innr](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/innr)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2007, 11:07am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/does-mongrel-work-with-memcached/112500/1 "2007-08-20T11:07:10Z")
Hello, Has anyone gotten memcached to work with a mongrel cluster before? I see numerous posts on the internet of people who can’t get this to work, and no one saying it does. Do these two technologies work together? (Note: I say mongrel cluster. I know memcached works with a single mongrel instance). ## -Iain View this message in context: [http://www.nabble.com/does-mongrel-work-with-memcached--tf4297581.html#a12232426](http://www.nabble.com/does-mongrel-work-with-memcached--tf4297581.html#a12232426) Sent from the RubyOnRails Users mailing list archive at [Nabble.com](http://Nabble.com). ---
**Author:** ![innr](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/ec9cab/32.png) [@innr](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/innr)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 11:02pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/does-mongrel-work-with-memcached/112500/2 "2007-09-25T23:02:09Z")
Interesting… are you using memcache-client or Ruby-MemCache to make your bridge? -Iain Keith D.-3 wrote: > mongrel cluster and enabled memcached sessions in my environment.rb. > > > ## numerous posts on the internet of people who can’t get this to work, and – View this message in context: [http://www.nabble.com/does-mongrel-work-with-memcached--tf4297581.html#a12233843](http://www.nabble.com/does-mongrel-work-with-memcached--tf4297581.html#a12233843) Sent from the RubyOnRails Users mailing list archive at [Nabble.com](http://Nabble.com). ---
**Author:** ![innr](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/ec9cab/32.png) [@innr](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/innr)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 11:02pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/does-mongrel-work-with-memcached/112500/3 "2007-09-25T23:02:31Z")
Hurm, that suggests its a configuration issue. Could I take a look at the memcache lines you added for environment.rb please? I’m using the “vanilla” ones posted on many blogs. Tried with both clients to no avail. I’m currently reading through the verbose debug from Ruby-MemCache in the hope of spotting something… -Iain Keith D.-3 wrote: > On 8/20/07, innr [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > > > Keith D.-3 wrote: > > > > > mongrel cluster and enabled memcached sessions in my environment.rb. > > > > > > > numerous posts on the internet of people who can’t get this to work, > > > > -Iain > > > – View this message in context: [http://www.nabble.com/does-mongrel-work-with-memcached--tf4297581.html#a12234130](http://www.nabble.com/does-mongrel-work-with-memcached--tf4297581.html#a12234130) Sent from the RubyOnRails Users mailing list archive at [Nabble.com](http://Nabble.com). ---
**Author:** ![innr](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/ec9cab/32.png) [@innr](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/innr)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 11:07pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/does-mongrel-work-with-memcached/112500/4 "2007-09-25T23:07:16Z")
OK, I did some debugging of Rails, and I think the answer is to do with the way Rails uses sessions. The mem\_cache session store is actually serialised outside of the Rails framework, which means that it cannot instantiate ActiveRecord objects upon load. This is different to the file\_session storage which is part of Rails. This means that if you store ActiveRecord objects in your session, there is a good chance your application will not work with memcached. I’m guessing you opt for the more traditional route and only store IDs in the session. Different options at this point are to add additional extensions to the CGI:Session object (serialising everything as a string upon save and load) so that mem\_cache\_session will work, changing the application to use object IDs rather than objects in the session, or going back to file based sessions and adding some kind of mutex so they will work with mongrel clusters. Thanks for all your help, -Iain Keith D.-3 wrote: > On 8/20/07, innr [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > > > Ruby-MemCache in the hope of spotting something… > > > > > mac, works on > > > > > > > bridge? > > > > didn’t > > > > > > > > > On 8/20/07, innr [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > ## no > > > > > > > > – View this message in context: [http://www.nabble.com/does-mongrel-work-with-memcached--tf4297581.html#a12250769](http://www.nabble.com/does-mongrel-work-with-memcached--tf4297581.html#a12250769) Sent from the RubyOnRails Users mailing list archive at [Nabble.com](http://Nabble.com). ---
**Author:** ![innr](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/ec9cab/32.png) [@innr](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/innr)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 11:09pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/does-mongrel-work-with-memcached/112500/5 "2007-09-25T23:09:54Z")
I am using memcache-client. Also, I am running the production boxes on linux but developing on a mac, works on both. Keith ---
**Author:** ![innr](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/ec9cab/32.png) [@innr](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/innr)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 11:03pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/does-mongrel-work-with-memcached/112500/6 "2007-09-25T23:03:03Z")
The only line I’ve added is to the Rails::Initializer.run block and it looks like this: config.action\_controller.session\_store = :mem\_cache\_store Keith