# Correcting Bent Records: Mongrel is not SCGI **URL:** \ **Category:** Rails\ **Created:** [March 4, 2006, 6:27pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/correcting-bent-records-mongrel-is-not-scgi/76699 "2006-03-04T18:27:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Zed\_S](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/z/da6949/32.png) [@Zed\_S](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Zed_S)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2006, 6:27pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/correcting-bent-records-mongrel-is-not-scgi/76699/1 "2006-03-04T18:27:15Z")
Hi, I kept getting a very weird question about Mongrel ([http://mongrel.rubyforge.org](http://mongrel.rubyforge.org)) and SCGI that I think really needs to be cleared up: \*\* Mongrel is not SCGI and will never need, use, require, or interact with SCGI (unless someone wants to write the handler for it). \*\* For some reason people have been under the impression that Mongrel actually uses or interacts with my other project SCGI Rails Runner. SRR was my previous attempt at making it easier to serve Ruby web applications. Mongrel is a completely different beast but with the same goals: simple, platform neutral, framework agnostic, fast as hell web services. It could almost be considered SRR 2.0 in that it drops the SCGI protocol and just goes straight HTTP, but also since it has major architectural improvements. \*\* Other than my authorship there is no connection to Mongrel and SRR. \*\* For those of you who need pictures I’ve added a FAQ related to this misunderstanding: [http://mongrel.rubyforge.org/faq.html](http://mongrel.rubyforge.org/faq.html) If anyone has some clues as to how this misconception may have come about (other than people not reading) then let me know so I can fix that up. This has been a service announcement from your friendly neighborhood coder. Enjoy! Zed A. Shaw > **[Zed A. shaw](https://zedshaw.com/)** > > Personal essays and writings by Zed A. Shaw. ---
**Author:** ![Zed\_S](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/z/da6949/32.png) [@Zed\_S](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Zed_S)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2006, 8:38pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/correcting-bent-records-mongrel-is-not-scgi/76699/2 "2006-03-04T20:38:44Z")
Ahhh, so Mongrel is the successor to SCGI then? I wasn’t confused about Mongrel (it using SCGI), but didn’t know it was SRR 2.0. Do you have docs comparing Mongrel with SCGI, such as performance differences, features, etc.? If Mongrel is indeed the successor to SCGI, I have to admit not having all the error handling config for each vhost in Lighty’s config sounds nice :). Thanks, Joe PS - Your FASQ link is broken ;). ---
**Author:** ![Zed\_S](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/z/da6949/32.png) [@Zed\_S](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Zed_S)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2006, 8:49pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/correcting-bent-records-mongrel-is-not-scgi/76699/3 "2006-03-04T20:49:57Z")
Just want to make sure of something though. You get that Mongrel uses HTTP and is completely different right? When I say “SRR 2.0” I mean I learned a lot from SRR that I’m putting into Mongrel. _NOT_ that Mongrel shares any code with SRR. Did that come across in the posting? Zed A. Shaw > **[Zed A. shaw](https://zedshaw.com/)** > > Personal essays and writings by Zed A. Shaw. PS. Thanks, I’ll fix the link. ---
**Author:** ![Zed\_S](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/z/da6949/32.png) [@Zed\_S](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Zed_S)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2006, 9:05pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/correcting-bent-records-mongrel-is-not-scgi/76699/4 "2006-03-04T21:05:00Z")
Zed S. wrote: > Just want to make sure of something though. You get that Mongrel uses > HTTP > and is completely different right? I get that :). From the start my impression has been that Mongrel operates similar to WEBrick, but aims to be much speedier. But that’s about the extent of my knowledge (I haven’t tried out Mongrel yet) ;). Joe > When I say “SRR 2.0” I mean I > learned a > lot from SRR that I’m putting into Mongrel. _NOT_ that Mongrel shares > any > code with SRR. > > Did that come across in the posting? > > Zed A. Shaw > [http://www.zedshaw.com/](http://www.zedshaw.com/) > > PS. Thanks, I’ll fix the link. ---
**Author:** ![Zed\_S](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/z/da6949/32.png) [@Zed\_S](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Zed_S)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2006, 8:21am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/correcting-bent-records-mongrel-is-not-scgi/76699/5 "2006-03-05T08:21:21Z")
Zed S. wrote: > Just want to make sure of something though. You get that Mongrel uses > HTTP > and is completely different right? When I say “SRR 2.0” I mean I > learned a > lot from SRR that I’m putting into Mongrel. _NOT_ that Mongrel shares > any > code with SRR. > > Did that come across in the posting? > > Zed A. Shaw > [http://www.zedshaw.com/](http://www.zedshaw.com/) > > PS. Thanks, I’ll fix the link. Hi Zed, Should we consider SRR end of life? /Boris ---
**Author:** ![Zed\_S](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/z/da6949/32.png) [@Zed\_S](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Zed_S)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2006, 8:45pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/correcting-bent-records-mongrel-is-not-scgi/76699/6 "2006-03-05T20:45:34Z")
I’m still supporting it and will do some work on it after the 0.4 Mongrel release since there’s a couple projects that still use it. That being said, I’m probably going to put all the new snazzy features into Mongrel since it’s a much easier hosting solution to work with. Zed