# CMS and REST - best practices **URL:** \ **Category:** Rails\ **Created:** [May 12, 2009, 12:29am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/cms-and-rest-best-practices/167727 "2009-05-12T00:29:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/58956e/32.png) [@casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/casper_the_ghost)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2009, 12:29am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/cms-and-rest-best-practices/167727/1 "2009-05-12T00:29:56Z")
OK I need a bit of direction for this. I want to build an app where I have a CMS side that edits everything (which is all private), then a public side which just views is all. My dilemma is how to set this up. What is the best practice for this? I have a couple ideas: obj1Controller/Obj1 (this would publicly list every obj1) obj1Controller/Obj1/edit (this would privately list every obj1 and allow you to edit) OR do I do something where there’s a whole other side: CMS/obj1Controller/ (private) PUBLIC/obj1Controller/ (public) In the above, I feel like that would break REST, since there’s kinda two URL’s for the same resource. Thoughts? ---
**Author:** ![casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/58956e/32.png) [@casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/casper_the_ghost)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2009, 3:17am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/cms-and-rest-best-practices/167727/2 "2009-05-12T03:17:36Z")
removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid wrote: > allow you to edit) > > OR do I do something where there’s a whole other side: > > CMS/obj1Controller/ (private) > PUBLIC/obj1Controller/ (public) Would you want to consider using a ready solution: Radiant CMS? URL - [http://radiantcms.org/](http://radiantcms.org/) Cheers, Mohit. 5/12/2009 | 9:16 AM. ---
**Author:** ![casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/58956e/32.png) [@casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/casper_the_ghost)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2009, 3:24am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/cms-and-rest-best-practices/167727/3 "2009-05-12T03:24:05Z")
hello, i need add the comments to radiant please i neet a tutorial thanks El 11/05/2009, a las 20:16, Mohit S. escribió: > ---
**Author:** ![casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/58956e/32.png) [@casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/casper_the_ghost)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2009, 3:44am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/cms-and-rest-best-practices/167727/4 "2009-05-12T03:44:38Z")
No, I want to build it myself… I look at it though. So what is the best practice? Should I build a separate section with its own controllers to edit them? or make a separate private view within the component controller? ---
**Author:** ![casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/58956e/32.png) [@casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/casper_the_ghost)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2009, 3:31am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/cms-and-rest-best-practices/167727/5 "2009-05-12T03:31:07Z")
Mauricio D. wrote: > hello, i need add the comments to radiant please i neet a tutorial It would be good to ask on the Radiant CMS mailing list, but see: - [GitHub - saturnflyer/radiant-comments: Radiant Comments](http://github.com/saturnflyer/radiant-comments/tree/master) - [http://wiki.github.com/radiant/radiant/using-radiant-as-a-blog](http://wiki.github.com/radiant/radiant/using-radiant-as-a-blog) Cheers, Mohit. 5/12/2009 | 9:30 AM. ---
**Author:** ![casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/58956e/32.png) [@casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/casper_the_ghost)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 9:39am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/cms-and-rest-best-practices/167727/6 "2009-05-13T09:39:00Z")
removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid wrote: > No, I want to build it myself… I look at it though. > > So what is the best practice? > > Should I build a separate section with its own controllers to edit > them? or make a separate private view within the component controller? I started looking at Adva (see [GitHub - svenfuchs/adva\_cms: cutting edge cms, blog, wiki, forum ...](http://github.com/svenfuchs/adva_cms/tree/master)) which has quite a lot of good stuff in it you can look at for your project. It separates out the admin side of things from the public view side of things and it isolates the packages into plugin engines leaving your own app directory free for putting what you want into it. It’s a nice idea and has some top coders working on it. Trouble is it has top coders working on it and they disdain documentation, so it’s a bit hard for someone coming into it who hasn’t followed the development. Clever coders often can’t resist the temptation to re-code everything or re-write commonly used plugins, which is what they have done inside Adva. There’re a lot of clever tricks, completely undocumented, so you really are on your own. But on the other hand, once you’ve mastered some of the insider tricks, it’s quite easy to add your own controllers, models, and views. I’m not an insider though and it’s a moving target so I can’t offer advice on how to integrate your own code into the latest version, I’m still trying to work it out. The other thing I don’t like about it is the assumption that a CMS is used solely for publishing “articles”. I guess if you spend your life blogging then that’s a sensible assumption, but most websites aren’t blogs or lists of articles. There doesn’t seem to be a way to edit pages which are composed of many “page sections” each with unique/non-unique content. So if you wanted to have a standard page section that appeared on a restricted set of pages there’s no way you could do it easily. It’s nice, it has potential, there’s a lot of clever code in it, but it’s a very very long way to go before it’s as easy to use as Wordpress. John S. ---
**Author:** ![casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/58956e/32.png) [@casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/casper_the_ghost)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 9:45am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/cms-and-rest-best-practices/167727/7 "2009-05-13T09:45:12Z")
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 9:39 AM, John S. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > The other thing I don’t like about it is the assumption that a CMS is > used solely for publishing “articles”. I guess if you spend your life > blogging then that’s a sensible assumption, but most websites aren’t > blogs or lists of articles. There doesn’t seem to be a way to edit pages > which are composed of many “page sections” each with unique/non-unique > content. So if you wanted to have a standard page section that appeared > on a restricted set of pages there’s no way you could do it easily. Anyone has it’s own idea of “CMS” or backend for an application. People from Django have their “django-admin” and they’re happy with it, so I wrote something similar for Rails which I’m using on my projects, and I know lots of people using it on their projects. The project is called Typus. ``` http://github.com/fesplugas/typus ```