# Cloning AR doesn't clone associations?

**URL:** <https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/cloning-ar-doesnt-clone-associations/47639>\
**Category:** Rails\
**Created:** [November 12, 2005, 12:49pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/cloning-ar-doesnt-clone-associations/47639 "2005-11-12T12:49:50Z")\
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**Author:** ![jeroen](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/bbe5ce/32.png) [@jeroen](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/jeroen)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2005, 12:49pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/cloning-ar-doesnt-clone-associations/47639/1 "2005-11-12T12:49:50Z")

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Hi,

Am I right in thinking that cloning an ActiveRecord does not close its  
associations? If so, any particluar reason for this?

Jeroen

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**Author:** ![jeroen](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/bbe5ce/32.png) [@jeroen](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/jeroen)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2005, 12:49pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/cloning-ar-doesnt-clone-associations/47639/2 "2005-11-12T12:49:50Z")

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On Nov 10, 2005, at 12:26 PM, Jeroen H. wrote:

> Am I right in thinking that cloning an ActiveRecord does not close  
> its associations? If so, any particluar reason for this?

Because how deep you go in the object graph is application-specific.

jeremy  
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**Author:** ![jeroen](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/bbe5ce/32.png) [@jeroen](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/jeroen)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2005, 12:49pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/cloning-ar-doesnt-clone-associations/47639/3 "2005-11-12T12:49:51Z")

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Jeremy K. wrote:

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> On Nov 10, 2005, at 12:26 PM, Jeroen H. wrote:
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> > Am I right in thinking that cloning an ActiveRecord does not close  
> > its associations? If so, any particluar reason for this?
> 
> Because how deep you go in the object graph is application-specific.

Okay. Makes sense. Perhaps this can be added to the API docs.

Thanks for your help!

Jeroen

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**Author:** ![jeroen](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/bbe5ce/32.png) [@jeroen](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/jeroen)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2005, 12:49pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/cloning-ar-doesnt-clone-associations/47639/4 "2005-11-12T12:49:52Z")

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On Nov 10, 2005, at 1:22 PM, Jeroen H. wrote:

> Jeremy K. wrote:
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> > On Nov 10, 2005, at 12:26 PM, Jeroen H. wrote:
> > 
> > > Am I right in thinking that cloning an ActiveRecord does not  
> > > close its associations? If so, any particluar reason for this?
> > 
> > Because how deep you go in the object graph is application-specific.
> 
> Okay. Makes sense. Perhaps this can be added to the API docs.

Sure: [http://dev.rubyonrails.org/changeset/2975](http://dev.rubyonrails.org/changeset/2975)

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