# Changing :activerecord to :models in Rails yml files **URL:** \ **Category:** Rails I18n\ **Created:** [January 4, 2010, 12:00am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/changing-activerecord-to-models-in-rails-yml-files/181019 "2010-01-04T00:00:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![josevalim](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/bcef8e/32.png) [@josevalim](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/josevalim)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2010, 12:00am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/changing-activerecord-to-models-in-rails-yml-files/181019/1 "2010-01-04T00:00:07Z")
Hey folks, I want to propose changing the namespace in I18n files from :activerecord to :models. The reason is to be more agnostic since with ActiveModel it will appear several plugins that are similar to ActiveRecord and this would mean in a lot of duplication: en: activerecord: errors: messages: blank: “can’t be blank” invalid: “invalid” ``` anotherlib: errors: messages: blank: "can't be blank" invalid: "invalid" ``` Moving to more agnostic name means that we could have such messages in just one place: en: models: errors: messages: blank: “can’t be blank” invalid: “invalid” This is a topic I already discussed with Sven, and just brought the to mailing list now. Backward compatibility would be possible with the use of symlinks: en: activerecord: :models But this could become expensive if people forget to change it. So I would prefer to check if the yaml file has an :activerecord key and tell people to update it. So, are you in? – You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups “rails-i18n” group. To post to this group, send email to removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid. For more options, visit this group at [http://groups.google.com/group/rails-i18n?hl=en](http://groups.google.com/group/rails-i18n?hl=en). ---
**Author:** ![josevalim](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/bcef8e/32.png) [@josevalim](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/josevalim)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2010, 9:02am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/changing-activerecord-to-models-in-rails-yml-files/181019/2 "2010-01-04T09:02:09Z")
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 5:47 AM, Rodrigo Rosenfeld R. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid)wrote: > José Valim escreveu: > > > Hey folks, > > > > I want to propose changing the namespace in I18n files > > from :activerecord to :models. Agreed, but we probably need a fallback anyway — look in :models, than in :activerecord. – Yaroslav – You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups “rails-i18n” group. To post to this group, send email to removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid. For more options, visit this group at [http://groups.google.com/group/rails-i18n?hl=en](http://groups.google.com/group/rails-i18n?hl=en). ---
**Author:** ![josevalim](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/bcef8e/32.png) [@josevalim](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/josevalim)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2010, 3:49am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/changing-activerecord-to-models-in-rails-yml-files/181019/3 "2010-01-04T03:49:01Z")
José Valim escreveu: > ``` > messages: > > ``` > > just one place: > use of symlinks: I completely agree. Rodrigo. – You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups “rails-i18n” group. To post to this group, send email to removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid. For more options, visit this group at [http://groups.google.com/group/rails-i18n?hl=en](http://groups.google.com/group/rails-i18n?hl=en). ---
**Author:** ![josevalim](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/bcef8e/32.png) [@josevalim](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/josevalim)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2010, 9:06am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/changing-activerecord-to-models-in-rails-yml-files/181019/4 "2010-01-04T09:06:50Z")
+1 🙂 regarding bc - can we just link? en: models: errors: messages: blank: “can’t be blank” invalid: “invalid” en: activerecord: errors: :“models.errors” ? On Jan 4, 2010, at 9:00 AM, Yaroslav Markin wrote: > – > Yaroslav > > – > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google G. “rails-i18n” group. > To post to this group, send email to removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid. > For more options, visit this group at [http://groups.google.com/group/rails-i18n?hl=en](http://groups.google.com/group/rails-i18n?hl=en). – You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups “rails-i18n” group. To post to this group, send email to removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid. For more options, visit this group at [http://groups.google.com/group/rails-i18n?hl=en](http://groups.google.com/group/rails-i18n?hl=en). ---
**Author:** ![josevalim](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/bcef8e/32.png) [@josevalim](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/josevalim)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2010, 9:27am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/changing-activerecord-to-models-in-rails-yml-files/181019/5 "2010-01-04T09:27:55Z")
We could link, but since people have ActiveRecord stuff in their yml the link would be overwriten anyway, like in the simple example below: en: activerecord: errors: blank: “cannot be blank” That’s why I think that we should just yell a warning if we find an activerecord key. By the way, Sam Ruby, pointed an issue, imagine the following configuration below: en: models: models: admin: Admin artist: Artist ``` attributes: admin: name: Name errors: messages: blank: cannot be blank ``` “en.models.models.admin” is odd, maybe we should change the second “models” for another key? If so, which one? On Jan 4, 9:05 am, Sven F. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > > – > > Yaroslav > > > – > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google G. “rails-i18n” group. > > To post to this group, send email to removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid. > > For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rails-i18n?hl=en. – You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups “rails-i18n” group. To post to this group, send email to removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid. For more options, visit this group at [http://groups.google.com/group/rails-i18n?hl=en](http://groups.google.com/group/rails-i18n?hl=en). ---
**Author:** ![josevalim](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/bcef8e/32.png) [@josevalim](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/josevalim)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2010, 10:14am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/changing-activerecord-to-models-in-rails-yml-files/181019/6 "2010-01-04T10:14:09Z")
good idea! +1 On Jan 3, 11:59 pm, José Valim [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > ``` > messages: > > ``` > > just one place: > use of symlinks: > > en: > activerecord: :models > > But this could become expensive if people forget to change it. So I > would prefer to check if the yaml file has an :activerecord key and > tell people to update it. > > So, are you in? – You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups “rails-i18n” group. To post to this group, send email to removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid. For more options, visit this group at [http://groups.google.com/group/rails-i18n?hl=en](http://groups.google.com/group/rails-i18n?hl=en). ---
**Author:** ![josevalim](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/bcef8e/32.png) [@josevalim](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/josevalim)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2010, 10:14am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/changing-activerecord-to-models-in-rails-yml-files/181019/7 "2010-01-04T10:14:44Z")
Maybe use “names” instead of “models”? Or change the structure on a larger scale? Like so: en: models: admin: name: Admin attributes: name: Name etc. On Jan 4, 9:27 am, José Valim [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > ``` > admin: > > ``` > > > ``` > > blank: "can't be blank" > > > > ``` > > > > > On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 5:47 AM, Rodrigo Rosenfeld R. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > > > > – > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google G. “rails-i18n” group. > > > To post to this group, send email to removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid. > > > For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rails-i18n?hl=en. – You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups “rails-i18n” group. To post to this group, send email to removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid. For more options, visit this group at [http://groups.google.com/group/rails-i18n?hl=en](http://groups.google.com/group/rails-i18n?hl=en). ---
**Author:** ![josevalim](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/bcef8e/32.png) [@josevalim](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/josevalim)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2010, 11:17am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/changing-activerecord-to-models-in-rails-yml-files/181019/8 "2010-01-04T11:17:57Z")
I find Clemens’ solution the most elegant I’ve read so far. It keeps all the translations of a model together, instead of splitting them into two separate scopes. I do miss the global error message translations. About the transition, we could also make a configuration option, making it possible to switch between old-style and new-style, but I don’t like the extra code that requires in AR. Also, a small script that rewrites your yml? Wouldn’t be that difficult. On a side note: Last few projects I’ve done, I found that I didn’t want to put all translations into one scope at all. All this nesting can be difficult to maintain. Couldn’t we just get rid of the ‘models’-scope? On Jan 4, 10:13 am, Clemens K. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > etc. > > > ``` > > artist: Artist > > > > ``` > > > > “models” for another key? If so, which one? > > > > > ``` > > > messages: > > > > > > ``` > > > > > Yaroslav > > > > > – > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google G. “rails-i18n” group. > > > > To post to this group, send email to removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid. > > > > For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rails-i18n?hl=en. – You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups “rails-i18n” group. To post to this group, send email to removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid. For more options, visit this group at [http://groups.google.com/group/rails-i18n?hl=en](http://groups.google.com/group/rails-i18n?hl=en). ---
**Author:** ![josevalim](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/bcef8e/32.png) [@josevalim](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/josevalim)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2010, 11:21am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/changing-activerecord-to-models-in-rails-yml-files/181019/9 "2010-01-04T11:21:28Z")
Good proposal Clemens! But would be odd to have “admin” and “errors” sharing the same keys level: en: models: admin: name: Admin attributes: name: Name ``` errors: messages: blank: "can't be blank" ``` Unless we make errors a root key as well: en: errors: messages: blank: “cannot be blank” ``` models: admin: name: Admin attributes: ``` Anyway, I put up a gist will a Rails 2.3 yml sample and current proposals: > Feel free to fork it and propose other alternatives. Later I will gather different proposals and sum them up here, so we can discuss them (including backward compatibility). On Jan 4, 10:13 am, Clemens K. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > etc. > > > ``` > > errors: > > models: > > > > ``` > > > > models: > > > > > – > > > > Yaroslav > > > > > – > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google G. “rails-i18n” group. > > > > To post to this group, send email to removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid. > > > > For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rails-i18n?hl=en. – You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups “rails-i18n” group. To post to this group, send email to removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid. For more options, visit this group at [http://groups.google.com/group/rails-i18n?hl=en](http://groups.google.com/group/rails-i18n?hl=en). ---
**Author:** ![josevalim](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/bcef8e/32.png) [@josevalim](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/josevalim)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2010, 12:34pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/changing-activerecord-to-models-in-rails-yml-files/181019/10 "2010-01-04T12:34:03Z")
also, what about full\_messages per model or attribute? 🙂 On Jan 4, 2010, at 11:20 AM, José Valim wrote: > ``` > errors: > > ``` > > Feel free to fork it and propose other alternatives. Later I will > > > ``` > > name: Admin > > > > ``` > > > > > the link would be overwriten anyway, like in the simple example below: > > > configuration below: > > > > > > activerecord: > > > > > > > > > > I want to propose changing the namespace in I18n files > > > > > > To post to this group, send email to removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid. – You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups “rails-i18n” group. To post to this group, send email to removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid. For more options, visit this group at [http://groups.google.com/group/rails-i18n?hl=en](http://groups.google.com/group/rails-i18n?hl=en). ---
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I think that feature is crucial. I can think of it being used with more frequency than with a generic message. Sven F. escreveu: > also, what about full\_messages per model or attribute? 🙂 > > On Jan 4, 2010, at 11:20 AM, José Valim wrote: … – You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups “rails-i18n” group. To post to this group, send email to removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid. For more options, visit this group at [http://groups.google.com/group/rails-i18n?hl=en](http://groups.google.com/group/rails-i18n?hl=en). ---
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Forked the gist and added 3.yml, which is Clemens’ proposal with some more examples > > > There are more than three files. show original Feedback please 🙂 On Jan 4, 1:55 pm, José Valim [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > > > sharing the same keys level: > > > blank: “can’t be blank” > > > name: Admin > > > > > > ``` > > > > > blank: "cannot be blank" > > > > > admin: Admin > > > > > > > > > > ``` > > > > > > > > > > “en.models.models.admin” is odd, maybe we should change the second > > > > > > > > > > > ``` > > > > > > errors: > > > > > > > > > > > > ``` > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 4, 2010, at 9:00 AM, Yaroslav Markin wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > – > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google G. “rails-i18n” group. > > > To post to this group, send email to removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid. > > > For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rails-i18n?hl=en. – You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups “rails-i18n” group. To post to this group, send email to removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid. For more options, visit this group at [http://groups.google.com/group/rails-i18n?hl=en](http://groups.google.com/group/rails-i18n?hl=en). ---
**Author:** ![josevalim](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/bcef8e/32.png) [@josevalim](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/josevalim)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2010, 1:56pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/changing-activerecord-to-models-in-rails-yml-files/181019/13 "2010-01-04T13:56:34Z")
Yeah, we should definitely take this into account when working on this new i18n yml format. On Jan 4, 12:32 pm, Sven F. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > > models: > > > Anyway, I put up a gist will a Rails 2.3 yml sample and current > > > > > larger scale? Like so: > > > On Jan 4, 9:27 am, José Valim [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > > > > > > > activerecord key. > > > > attributes: > > > > On Jan 4, 9:05 am, Sven F. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > > > > > > > > > ``` > > > > > invalid: "invalid" > > > > > > > > > > ``` > > > > > > > > > > > ## José Valim escreveu: > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid. > > For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rails-i18n?hl=en. – You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups “rails-i18n” group. To post to this group, send email to removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid. For more options, visit this group at [http://groups.google.com/group/rails-i18n?hl=en](http://groups.google.com/group/rails-i18n?hl=en). ---
**Author:** ![josevalim](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/bcef8e/32.png) [@josevalim](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/josevalim)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2010, 11:13pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/changing-activerecord-to-models-in-rails-yml-files/181019/14 "2010-01-04T23:13:47Z")
Nice! We should also try work with a real yml file, to see if it will get more verbose or not with Iain proposal. On Jan 4, 9:07 pm, iain hecker [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > > > > sharing the same keys level: > > > > blank: “can’t be blank” > > > > name: Admin > > > > > > > ``` > > > > > > blank: "cannot be blank" > > > > > > admin: Admin > > > > > > > > > > > > ``` > > > > > > > > > > > > “en.models.models.admin” is odd, maybe we should change the second > > > > > > > > > > > > > ``` > > > > > > > errors: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ``` > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 4, 2010, at 9:00 AM, Yaroslav Markin wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > – > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google G. “rails-i18n” group. > > > > To post to this group, send email to removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid. > > > > For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rails-i18n?hl=en. – You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups “rails-i18n” group. To post to this group, send email to removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid. For more options, visit this group at [http://groups.google.com/group/rails-i18n?hl=en](http://groups.google.com/group/rails-i18n?hl=en). ---
**Author:** ![josevalim](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/bcef8e/32.png) [@josevalim](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/josevalim)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2010, 11:27pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/changing-activerecord-to-models-in-rails-yml-files/181019/15 "2010-01-06T23:27:08Z")
Hey guys, Thanks for the attention. I personally liked the direction token by Clemens and Iain, but the change should be the smallest backward compatible as possible. And the simplest way to achieve it is to move :activerecord.errors to simply :errors. Anyway, I will try to implement default attributes as Iain proposed, as something like this: en: attributes: updated\_at: “Atualizado em” Thanks again! ---
**Author:** ![josevalim](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/bcef8e/32.png) [@josevalim](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/josevalim)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2010, 1:37pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/changing-activerecord-to-models-in-rails-yml-files/181019/16 "2010-01-05T13:37:12Z")
I’ve hacked together a small script to convert the current situation to my proposed situation and tested it out on one of the bigger projects I did recently. The results are: Before: 899 lines, 33KB After: 975 lines, 35KB Not a big difference in verbosity. The script is here: [transform-activerecord-yml.rb · GitHub](http://gist.github.com/269353) I just placed it in the root of my rails app and ran it. Change the locale if you want to try it. On Jan 4, 11:12 pm, José Valim [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > > Feedback please 🙂 > > > > > > On Jan 4, 2010, at 11:20 AM, José Valim wrote: > > > > > > Feel free to fork it and propose other alternatives. Later I will > > > > > > > > > > > ``` > > > > > > name: Admin > > > > > > > > > > > > ``` > > > > > > > > > > > > > en: > > > > > > > en: > > > > > > > messages: > > > > > > > > > > For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rails-i18n?hl=en. > > > > > > – > > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google G. “rails-i18n” group. > > > > > To post to this group, send email to removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid. > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid. > > > > > For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rails-i18n?hl=en. – You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups “rails-i18n” group. To post to this group, send email to removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid. For more options, visit this group at [http://groups.google.com/group/rails-i18n?hl=en](http://groups.google.com/group/rails-i18n?hl=en). ---
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Obviously I mean the most backward compatible possible. 😉 ---
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I agree. But … IMO that’s another good argument to make things more pluggable. One could easily imagine having the defaults/scopes generation in a central method that could be overwritten by custom implementations. I believe at some point we even have to have better support for that unless we want to be forced to work around BC forever.