# BIG problems after removing page\_attachments **URL:** \ **Category:** Radiant CMS\ **Created:** [August 30, 2008, 6:19am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/big-problems-after-removing-page-attachments/147277 "2008-08-30T06:19:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/58956e/32.png) [@casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/casper_the_ghost)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2008, 6:19am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/big-problems-after-removing-page-attachments/147277/1 "2008-08-30T06:19:21Z")
OK, guys. I gave in to the hype about paperclipped, about how it will make my whites whiter and make my food taste better and all that jazz. Weeelllll, I need to get rid of page\_attachments first, so I did, and now my site won’t start back up. The process: 1. ssh into server and migrate page\_attachments to VERSION=0 2. delete local copy from project 3. svn commit the the changes 4. cap deploy 5. remove the page\_attachments entry in the production db (was id=1) 6. problems started When I went back to my old pages in the web browser and refreshed them, I got a very long lasting beach ball and the error “Application error Rails application failed to start properly” shows up. This is where it gets good: I tried to go to my production.log to get a clue what was happening, but for some reason I told svn to ignore the whole log folder when I started the project. Now I have no production log to go to and my app won’t start. I’ll set that issue to the side for a minute. I’ll have to figure out how to coax svn to start using the log directory again another time. What I really need to know is, did I uninstall the page\_attachments extension improperly? Is there something that the extension added or changed installed during the installation procedure that might be keeping my app from working now that it no longer exists? Any would certainly be appreciated. ~Nate ---
**Author:** ![casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/58956e/32.png) [@casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/casper_the_ghost)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2008, 4:22pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/big-problems-after-removing-page-attachments/147277/2 "2008-08-30T16:22:28Z")
Nate, That seems correct. If you get the production log issue fixed, give us a pastie of the failure, or better yet, just ssh in and run Mongrel with script/server. If it fails to start, it should give you a stack dump of the failure. Sean ---
**Author:** ![casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/58956e/32.png) [@casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/casper_the_ghost)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2008, 5:26am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/big-problems-after-removing-page-attachments/147277/3 "2008-08-31T05:26:55Z")
On Sat, 2008-08-30 at 10:21 -0400, Sean C. wrote: > Nate, > > That seems correct. If you get the production log issue fixed, give us > a pastie of the failure, or better yet, just ssh in and run Mongrel with > script/server. If it fails to start, it should give you a stack dump of > the failure. Well, I went back to the first version before I deleted the page\_attachments plugin and I was able to use the site as normal, even after I migrated the extension back to VERSION=0. I restarted the server and the site behaved like it did before, and on the admin side the Attachments section was still visible on the bottom of each of the pages. I didn’t try adding anything, it was enough for me that the site was loading properly. Everything changed however when I deleted the page\_attachments extension. When I tried to start up the server, I got the following output: [http://pastie.org/263392](http://pastie.org/263392) . I am really at a loss here. Do you have any idea where I need to start looking to get this thing up and running again without page\_attachments? I am totally confused. Thanks, Nate ---
**Author:** ![casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/58956e/32.png) [@casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/casper_the_ghost)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2008, 4:32am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/big-problems-after-removing-page-attachments/147277/4 "2008-09-01T04:32:49Z")
> Well, I went back to the first version before I deleted the > page\_attachments plugin and I was able to use the site as normal, even > after I migrated the extension back to VERSION=0. I restarted the server > and the site behaved like it did before, and on the admin side the > Attachments section was still visible on the bottom of each of the > pages. I didn’t try adding anything, it was enough for me that the site > was loading properly. > > Everything changed however when I deleted the page\_attachments > extension. When I tried to start up the server, I got the following > output: [http://pastie.org/263392](http://pastie.org/263392) . I am really at a loss here. Do you > have any idea where I need to start looking to get this thing up and > running again without page\_attachments? I am totally confused. > > Thanks, > > Nate Are you sure that all your pages do not have any “page\_attachments” tags interpolated throughout the content? P.S, Sorry if its a dumb question. ---
**Author:** ![casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/58956e/32.png) [@casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/casper_the_ghost)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2008, 8:42am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/big-problems-after-removing-page-attachments/147277/5 "2008-09-01T08:42:33Z")
Hmmm … nothing in that dump points to your Radiant app. It’s all references to the files in the Radiant gem or in Rails. Can you get a more descriptive dump that traces something back or mentions something the files in your Radiant instance? -C ---
**Author:** ![casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/58956e/32.png) [@casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/casper_the_ghost)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2008, 9:19pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/big-problems-after-removing-page-attachments/147277/6 "2008-09-02T21:19:56Z")
On Mon, 2008-09-01 at 04:32 +0200, Arik J. wrote: > Are you sure that all your pages do not have any “page\_attachments” tags > interpolated throughout the content? I realize that there is no way to know how well/not-well informed somebody is when they ask a question on a mailing list, but seriously. Yeah, I checked that. It’s not a huge site and there is only one other extension loaded (reorder). Honestly, I got fed up banging my head against the wall and set up a new, clean radiant app and moved my database.yml over. Everything works like a dream. So no, it’s not something in the database that is messing things up. It seemed to as if a phantom controller was requiring it, but I couldn’t figure out where that would have been happening. Strangeness. Long story short, new app, old db, new svn repo and I’ll try and deploy it again and see what happens. ~Nate ---
**Author:** ![casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/58956e/32.png) [@casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/casper_the_ghost)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2008, 10:25pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/big-problems-after-removing-page-attachments/147277/7 "2008-09-02T22:25:14Z")
On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 22:08 +0200, Arik J. wrote: > I wasn’t questioning your intelligence. Yeah, I know. It is the most obvious thing. Once I read your email I did recheck it, but I had removed all references to it. It’s a shame to rebuid (well, halfway) the site. It’s all good in the end. ~Nate ---
**Author:** ![casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/58956e/32.png) [@casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/casper_the_ghost)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2008, 10:30pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/big-problems-after-removing-page-attachments/147277/8 "2008-09-02T22:30:32Z")
Yay web development! lol. ---
**Author:** ![casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/58956e/32.png) [@casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/casper_the_ghost)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2008, 10:08pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/big-problems-after-removing-page-attachments/147277/9 "2008-09-02T22:08:36Z")
I wasn’t questioning your intelligence. Jesus, take a pill. Did you even read the end of the reply? ---
**Author:** ![casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/58956e/32.png) [@casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/casper_the_ghost)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2008, 7:25pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/big-problems-after-removing-page-attachments/147277/10 "2008-10-17T19:25:05Z")
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 9:18 PM, removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > OK, guys. I gave in to the hype about paperclipped, about how it will > make my whites whiter and make my food taste better and all that jazz. > Weeelllll, I need to get rid of page\_attachments first, so I did, and > now my site won’t start back up. How’s paperclipped better than attachment\_fu/page\_attachments? ---
**Author:** ![casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/58956e/32.png) [@casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/casper_the_ghost)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 3:36am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/big-problems-after-removing-page-attachments/147277/11 "2008-10-18T03:36:28Z")
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Arik J. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > Paperclipped doesn’t use RMagick (thanks to the paperclip plugin), > instead it directly accesses ImageMagick which does wonders for memory > consumption. You can drag and drop assets into the edit page text area. > ALL assets are accessible to all pages, unlike page attachments where it > didn’t give you access to any previously uploaded attachments (you’d > have to re-upload it or access it via another page or it’s parent page > using additional radiant tags). But unlike page\_attachments, you cannot use the images in a stylesheet. You can use paperclipped to manage PDFs and Flash files, though. And the bucket metaphor is nice for attaching images to pages. ~Nate ---
**Author:** ![casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/58956e/32.png) [@casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/casper_the_ghost)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2008, 7:39pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/big-problems-after-removing-page-attachments/147277/12 "2008-10-17T19:39:43Z")
Joe Van D. wrote: > On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 9:18 PM, removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid > [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > > > OK, guys. I gave in to the hype about paperclipped, about how it will > > make my whites whiter and make my food taste better and all that jazz. > > Weeelllll, I need to get rid of page\_attachments first, so I did, and > > now my site won’t start back up. > > How’s paperclipped better than attachment\_fu/page\_attachments? Paperclipped doesn’t use RMagick (thanks to the paperclip plugin), instead it directly accesses ImageMagick which does wonders for memory consumption. You can drag and drop assets into the edit page text area. ALL assets are accessible to all pages, unlike page attachments where it didn’t give you access to any previously uploaded attachments (you’d have to re-upload it or access it via another page or it’s parent page using additional radiant tags). Someone help me if I’ve missed any features. ---
**Author:** ![casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/58956e/32.png) [@casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/casper_the_ghost)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 4:05am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/big-problems-after-removing-page-attachments/147277/13 "2008-10-18T04:05:46Z")
Why can’t you use the images in a stylesheet? Just specify the image URL in the stylesheet. ---
**Author:** ![casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/58956e/32.png) [@casper\_the\_ghost](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/casper_the_ghost)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 4:13am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/big-problems-after-removing-page-attachments/147277/14 "2008-10-18T04:13:22Z")
I was never able to get it to work. I guess I should try it again before I start spreading FUD, eh? ~Nate