# Beginner in Ruby **URL:** \ **Category:** Rails\ **Created:** [August 19, 2008, 3:32pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/beginner-in-ruby/146260 "2008-08-19T15:32:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![thiagobrandam](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/c4cdca/32.png) [@thiagobrandam](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/thiagobrandam)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2008, 3:32pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/beginner-in-ruby/146260/1 "2008-08-19T15:32:15Z")
Hi all, my name is Thiago and I am completely new to Ruby. I’m having OO class this semester and one of the languages we are using is Ruby. For the final exam, we will have to build a software using OO concepts and my group decided to do this task with Ruby. I’d like to know what kind of software Ruby is best for and its limitations. I’m not asking for ideas but for directions, so that we don’t waste our time trying to do something too difficult or impossible. Best regards. ---
**Author:** ![thiagobrandam](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/c4cdca/32.png) [@thiagobrandam](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/thiagobrandam)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2008, 3:46pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/beginner-in-ruby/146260/2 "2008-08-19T15:46:22Z")
Get “The Ruby Way” by Hal F… You’ll get plenty of insights there which will help you focus on a project. HTH, Richard ---
**Author:** ![thiagobrandam](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/c4cdca/32.png) [@thiagobrandam](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/thiagobrandam)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2008, 4:25pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/beginner-in-ruby/146260/3 "2008-08-19T16:25:55Z")
Hi Thiago, First let me say welcome to Ruby. I just wanted to give a brief comparison of Ruby to other languages I know: 1. Unlike most languages I’ve used, Ruby is full object-oriented. Most OOP languages include a number of primitive (non-object) types. Not so in Ruby. Essentially everything is an object in Ruby. Take the following example: 5.times { puts “Hello” } Notice that the number 5 is an object (an instance of Fixnum). We are calling a “times” method on the instance and passing it a code block. In that simple example there is exposed a lot of the power of the Ruby language. 1. There are tradeoffs to a fully dynamic and interpreted language such as Ruby. But, that’s true for any language. Ruby is not compiled making it more difficult to obscure your code. Ruby runs from source, which get interpreted by the Ruby VM. The major tradeoff though is in performance. On the positive side though Ruby is a fantastic and fun language. It’s by far my favorite language to develop with. The only problem I see starting with Ruby is that you will likely not enjoy developing in other languages nearly as much as if you had never seen Ruby. For example here’s the Java for that earlier example: public class Main { public static void main(String[] args) { Main main = new Main(); for (int i = 0; i \< 5; i++) { System.out.println(“Hello”); } } } thiagobrandam wrote: > Hi all, my name is Thiago and I am completely new to Ruby. I’m having > OO class this semester and one of the languages we are using is Ruby. > For the final exam, we will have to build a software using OO concepts > and my group decided to do this task with Ruby. I’d like to know what > kind of software Ruby is best for and its limitations. I’m not asking > for ideas but for directions, so that we don’t waste our time trying > to do something too difficult or impossible. > Best regards. ---
**Author:** ![thiagobrandam](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/c4cdca/32.png) [@thiagobrandam](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/thiagobrandam)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2008, 8:07pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/beginner-in-ruby/146260/4 "2008-08-19T20:07:33Z")
You might better ask this question on comp.lang.ruby rather than this (rails) group. I think the main limitations (right now anyway) are execution speed, debugger support, and maybe unicode support (or is that now covered?). Strengths are everything else. 😉 What kind of a user interface do you want/need to have? It’d probably be easiest to do a command-line or web interface (the latter w/rails I’d think). HTH, -Roy ---
**Author:** ![thiagobrandam](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/c4cdca/32.png) [@thiagobrandam](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/thiagobrandam)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2008, 12:26am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/beginner-in-ruby/146260/5 "2008-08-20T00:26:24Z")
Hi guys, I appreciate your help very much. Roy, there’s no specification yet but we’d rather make a software with a friendly user interface. Is it possible in Ruby? ---
**Author:** ![thiagobrandam](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/c4cdca/32.png) [@thiagobrandam](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/thiagobrandam)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2008, 1:06am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/beginner-in-ruby/146260/6 "2008-08-20T01:06:47Z")
Hope I am not hijacking the thread. I am a newbie to RoR as well and wanted to know which book is more beneficial to learning this language. I am a self taught programmer and learn best using books and hands on trial and error. 1.) Railspace: building a social networking website with Ruby on Rails 2.) The Rails Way 3.) The Ruby Way Sent from my iPhone On Aug 19, 2008, at 6:25 PM, thiagobrandam [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) ---
**Author:** ![thiagobrandam](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/c4cdca/32.png) [@thiagobrandam](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/thiagobrandam)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2008, 5:04am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/beginner-in-ruby/146260/7 "2008-08-20T05:04:18Z")
I would say yes–certainly if you’re content to use a web browser as the interface. Ruby (and rails particularly) is great for generating HTML & javascript. I’m not sure what the state of the various ruby bindings to the GUI widget toolkits like GTK+ & Qt is–suspect that’s not quite as mature. But again–if that’s your goal, you’d be much better off asking on comp.lang.ruby. HTH, -Roy ---
**Author:** ![thiagobrandam](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/c4cdca/32.png) [@thiagobrandam](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/thiagobrandam)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2008, 9:35am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/beginner-in-ruby/146260/8 "2008-08-20T09:35:53Z")
I would highly recommend getting a Ruby book , I personally liked 'The Ruby P.ming Language" by Flanagan and Matsumoto , before trying to get into Rails. So your not trying to learn Ruby and Rails at the same time. And once you have a basic understanding of Ruby , The Rails Way is a excellent book. James On Aug 19, 7:01 pm, “Danny W. Pimienta”