How would someone be authorized to work in NZ if not a citizen?
A work permit is easily obtained if you work in IT and have a job
offer from an NZ company.
Official government information at
“In this section you will find everything you need to apply for a visa
and permit to work, temporarily or permanently, in New Zealand.”
As a general rule, people move here for the lifestyle, not for the
income.
Roy Britten wrote:
A work permit is easily obtained if you work in IT and have a job
offer from an NZ company.Official government information at
Immigration New Zealand
“In this section you will find everything you need to apply for a visa
and permit to work, temporarily or permanently, in New Zealand.”As a general rule, people move here for the lifestyle, not for the income.
May I ask why my former colleague who moved to Australia blew me off
when I
suggested he get me onto his next project? Was he just being polite when
he
claimed Oz has strict immigration policies, or is Oz that different from
NZ?
On 29/07/07, Phlip [email protected] wrote:
May I ask why my former colleague who moved to Australia blew me off when I
suggested he get me onto his next project? Was he just being polite when he
claimed Oz has strict immigration policies, or is Oz that different from NZ?
You’d have to ask your friend.
NZ is to Australia as Canada is to the USA.
http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20050421
You’d have to ask your friend.
NZ is to Australia as Canada is to the USA.
No need; that’s what we meant!
You been a fan longer than me…
In article
[email protected], “Roy
Britten” [email protected] wrote:
As a general rule, people move here for the lifestyle, not for the income.
Thanks!
Now back to Ruby. 
Eric
EricF wrote:
Now back to Ruby.
IIRC that’s what my former colleague and mentor/protoge was doing in
Oz…
On Jul 26, 2007, at 5:21 PM, Houman D. wrote:
I’m planing to immigrate to Australia or Canada, but am not sure which
one is a better place for a hacker (As Paul Graham calls us).What I’d like to know is, which country can help me to be a better
programmer? user groups, seminars, availability of resources and
things like these…
I’m Canadian, lived in several places there, have friends & relatives
in Oz, spent lots of time there. Currently I live in Vancouver but
have been considering relocating to Melbourne for quite a while now.
Vancouver & Melbourne regularly both place in top-5 best places to
live in the world lists, so it’s not a slam dunk. As regards Canada,
it depends what kind of high-tech. If it’s telecom, Ottawa. If it’s
finance, Toronto. If it’s Web2.0 stuff, Vancouver. If being in
California’s timezone is important, Vancouver. If it’s fun & good
food you’re after, Montreal or Vancouver. I wish Vancouver had more
winter sun but I just can’t take 5 months of snow on the ground, so I
don’t really have a choice. These days, get a high-tech job offer
and you can get into the country, no prob.
Any big Australian city is going to be a lot warmer, but then there
are the spikes to 40ºC and the high winds and the awful, horrible,
bugs. On the other hand, the people are awfully nice and the wine is
better. My impression is that the Aussie IT scene really does suffer
from being an 8±hour flight to anywhere, and a 15±hour flight to
any other tech center. But these days, you can find a Ruby tribe
wherever you are.
-T
Any big Australian city is going to be a lot warmer, but then there
are the spikes to 40ºC and the high winds and the awful, horrible,
bugs.
Awful horrible bugs?
Not sure about that, but we do have lots of imaginative ways to get
killed. No bears to eat you here (Like Canada?), but here’s my very
quick non-researched list of ways you (as a tourist) are likely to
die in Australia.
Drowning at Bondi et al. There’s some staggering number of people
drown each year on Australian beaches. Most of them tourists.
Eaten by a croc. In the north, when they say don’t enter the water,
they mean it.
Eaten by a Shark. Not too common actually.
Stung by a jellyfish. We have ones that’ll kill you in minutes.
You stood on a stone fish. These lie in the sand in the shallows and
have a deadly spike in their head.
Bitten by a snake. Of the ten most deadly snakes in the world, most
live in Australia.
Bitten by a spider. You’re less likely to die, but more likely to get
bitten. Quite common (relative to other means in this list) in metro
areas.
Stung by an octopus. We have a cute little one with glowing blue
rings. Deadly.
Stranded in the desert. People don’t seem to appreciate the size of
the country (but those from the US probably do. We’re a lot smaller
than you) and it’s surprising the number of people who hire a 4WD and
try to cross one of our deserts.
Lost in the Blue Mountains. Beautiful, but take care.
Falling asleep whilst driving. Surprisingly, this is a big killer.
Ways you’re not likely to die:
In a terrorist attack. Look out bad guys, We have the magnets and
we’re alert, but not alarmed.
(Our Gov’t too has been spinning the terror thing for all it’s worth.
You (in the US) got your constitution neutered. We got fridge magnets.)
Cheers,
Dave
Sharon P. wrote:
Ways you’re not likely to die:
In a terrorist attack. Look out bad guys, We have the magnets and we’re
alert, but not alarmed.
(Our Gov’t too has been spinning the terror thing for all it’s worth.
You (in the US) got your constitution neutered. We got fridge magnets.)
Is there a link to the fridge magnets somewhere? 
Wait a minute!! What about the drop bears??
But these days, you can find a Ruby tribe
wherever you are.
Australia has a great community. True, things tend to be mostly driven
by Rails - but there’s plenty of Ruby mixed in.
We recently ran RailsCamp07 in the bush north of Sydney, which was
hands down the best geek experience I’ve had.
http://toolmantim.com/article/2007/7/17/rails_camp_07_rundown
http://www.flickr.com/groups/rails-camp/pool/
The community is truly outstanding.
Now for the hair in the soup…
The IT industry in Australia is much, much smaller than most other
countries (Australia has a little over 20 million people). It also
seems that Australian companies have over the last few years developed
a regrettable aversion to any sort of risk, which now translates into
a reluctance in businesses to evaluate Ruby and Rails for their
projects.
There is quite a bit of work around for Rails developers, but
Australian rates seem low compared to pretty much anywhere else.
I’ve been living in Australia for almost eight years now and it is an
amazing country, lots of very friendly people and beautiful landscapes
and beaches.
–max
Giles B. wrote:
ground.
Hmmm … how about a small group of RoR hackers that just works out of a
well-equipped airliner and lands only to refuel and goof off?
For what it’s worth, there’s a company which was organizing, a little
while back, a sort of Rails programmers’ world tour work group. The
idea was, they’d get together a group of good RoR hackers, get them
oriented in the company, gelling as a team, etc., and then put them on
a plane for Thailand, after which they’d kind of hop around the
Pacific for a while, maybe the Caribbean as well, working out of cheap
but peaceful backpacker tourist spots for about a year.
Kind of a tangent, but relevant to the general question of working
with Ruby worldwide. I don’t know if they ever actually got it off the
ground.
–
Giles B.
Blog: http://gilesbowkett.blogspot.com
Portfolio: http://www.gilesgoatboy.org
Ways you’re not likely to die:
In a terrorist attack. Look out bad guys, We have the magnets and
we’re
alert, but not alarmed.
(Our Gov’t too has been spinning the terror thing for all it’s worth.
You (in the US) got your constitution neutered. We got fridge
magnets.)Is there a link to the fridge magnets somewhere?
You asked for it:
Anti-terrorism package to arrive in post this week http://
www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/stories/s775526.htm
PM: Anti-terror fridge magnets justified http://www.news.com.au/story/
0,23599,22001802-29277,00.html
Wait a minute!! What about the drop bears??
Ahh… the drop bears. Like I mentioned somewhere previously, the
work I do is classified and so I’m unable to reveal any further
information.
You may, however, find a reference in an add for Bunduberg Rum.
Cheers,
Dave
On Jul 29, 12:12 pm, “Giles B.” [email protected] wrote:
ground.
They landed in Thailand, discovered Soy Cowboy, and were never heard
from again…
Dan
Sharon P. wrote:
PM: Anti-terror fridge magnets justified
Ah … OK … I was hoping for pictures of the fridge magnets. I don’t
suppose they have drop bears on them.
On 30/07/2007, at 10:06 AM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
Is there a link to the fridge magnets somewhere?
You may, however, find a reference in an add for Bunduberg Rum.Cheers,
DaveAh … OK … I was hoping for pictures of the fridge magnets. I don’t
suppose they have drop bears on them.
Some Ying
and a bit of Yang
http://www.101usesforajohnhoward.com/2006/09/26/50-milk-of-magnesia/
Sharon P. wrote:
and a bit of Yang
http://www.101usesforajohnhoward.com/2006/09/26/50-milk-of-magnesia/
“The refrigerators of Australia are on the front line against
extremists…”
Hahaha, I love that.
Mark
Mark G. wrote:
Sharon P. wrote:
and a bit of Yang
http://www.101usesforajohnhoward.com/2006/09/26/50-milk-of-magnesia/
“The refrigerators of Australia are on the front line against extremists…”
After reading these links, I think it’s a very good idea to “look out
for Australia”.
But seriously. We Americans should not laugh. Our poor troops over in
Iraq are so ill-equipped they have to use post-it notes to protect their
refrigerators. Thankyew, yew been great…
Speaking from Canada, I would recommend Vancouver or Toronto. Each has
it’s perks besides the technology.
Vancouver has many other conferences and events going on around town
that would appeal to the traveller in you. Minus the smog, humidity in
the summer, and freezing cold in the winter, there isn’t much of a
better place to live in Canada than Vancouver.
I lived in Ottawa for a year, which is pretty close to the same
climate as Toronto, and the polarity in weather was enough to want to
make me come back home to Vancouver.
That being said, Vancouver would be on the top of the list.
As for Australia, can’t say I have been there before. Nice place, but
as far as my Ruby radar goes, isn’t a strong signal.
But, as I glanced over the thread, I did notice a very important
point. With todays technology, you don’t need to be local to benefit
from the world community of Ruby. We are increasingly closer by the
day as technology gets more real and more life like with an amplitude
of simplicity that changes the landscape dramatically when making a
decision like this.
Nathaniel.
On 7/26/07, Houman D. [email protected] wrote:
programmer? user groups, seminars, availability of resources and
things like these…Thank you all in advance and sorry again for OT message,
- Houman D.
–
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