# Asset Manager Mephisto Style **URL:** \ **Category:** Radiant CMS\ **Created:** [September 1, 2006, 5:08pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/asset-manager-mephisto-style/67249 "2006-09-01T17:08:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Nicholas\_Mulder\_SMu](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/848f3c/32.png) [@Nicholas\_Mulder\_SMu](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Nicholas_Mulder_SMu)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2006, 5:08pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/asset-manager-mephisto-style/67249/1 "2006-09-01T17:08:44Z")
For fun I installed Mephisto yesterday. Wow is it cool for a blogging app. ([http://mephistoblog.com/](http://mephistoblog.com/)) Mephisto’s Asset management systems is as they claim it is, ‘probably the best you’ll find in any CMS/Bloggin application’. All I can say is wow, they have Buckets! Looking at both Radiant and Mephisto I can see two very similar apps heading in two different directions. Just wondering if for some of the ‘lower level’ stuff like comments, asset management, etc. is it worth ‘sharing’? I would just hate to see a competition to see who’s is better when working together could potentially make both better. Mephisto is blog, Radiant is CMS first Blog second. Just wondering if we should work with along with Mephisto thats all. Thoughts? Nicholas Mulder Mulder Consulting 905 658 5641 removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid [mailto:removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) ---
**Author:** ![Nicholas\_Mulder\_SMu](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/848f3c/32.png) [@Nicholas\_Mulder\_SMu](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Nicholas_Mulder_SMu)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2006, 9:15pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/asset-manager-mephisto-style/67249/2 "2006-09-01T21:15:23Z")
Nicholas Mulder [Mulder Consulting] wrote: > For fun I installed Mephisto yesterday. Wow is it cool for a blogging > app. ([http://mephistoblog.com/](http://mephistoblog.com/)) > > Mephisto’s Asset management systems is as they claim it is, ‘probably > the best you’ll find in any CMS/Bloggin application’. All I can say is > wow, they have Buckets! Once we have a robust plugin system going I would love to see someone create an asset management solution similar to Mephisto’s. I’m not sure if buckets trump the idea for attachments, but it is definitely causing me to rethink my previous ideas about assets. > Looking at both Radiant and Mephisto I can see two very similar apps > heading in two different directions. Just wondering if for some of the > ‘lower level’ stuff like comments, asset management, etc. is it worth > ‘sharing’? I would just hate to see a competition to see who’s is > better when working together could potentially make both better. That would probably be up the the plugin authors (and the Mephisto people). But I do think it would be great if code could be shared. – John L. [http://wiseheartdesign.com](http://wiseheartdesign.com) ---
**Author:** ![Nicholas\_Mulder\_SMu](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/848f3c/32.png) [@Nicholas\_Mulder\_SMu](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Nicholas_Mulder_SMu)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2006, 9:21pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/asset-manager-mephisto-style/67249/3 "2006-09-01T21:21:24Z")
On 9/1/06, John W. Long [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > if buckets trump the idea for attachments, but it is definitely causing John, The Mephisto style for assets sounds good, but plain or direct use of their code could be difficult. They store the assets on the file system, on contrary that your desire to leverage only on DB to distribute everything for Radiant. Maybe the way they choose to use it could change your mind. ## – Luis L. Multimedia systems Leaders are made, they are not born. They are made by hard effort, which is the price which all of us must pay to achieve any goal that is worthwhile. Vince Lombardi ---
**Author:** ![Nicholas\_Mulder\_SMu](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/848f3c/32.png) [@Nicholas\_Mulder\_SMu](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Nicholas_Mulder_SMu)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2006, 9:25pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/asset-manager-mephisto-style/67249/4 "2006-09-01T21:25:25Z")
I believe that Mephisto uses the acts\_as\_attachment plugin (which works _great_ by the way), and you can set this plugin to store attachments in either the file system or in the database. While waiting for a real solution for the images issue in Radiant, I hacked together a rich text version of Radiant using this plugin. My client has been using it for 2 months now without a single problem. ---
**Author:** ![Nicholas\_Mulder\_SMu](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/848f3c/32.png) [@Nicholas\_Mulder\_SMu](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Nicholas_Mulder_SMu)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2006, 9:33pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/asset-manager-mephisto-style/67249/5 "2006-09-01T21:33:27Z")
On 9/1/06, Nathan W. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > I believe that Mephisto uses the acts\_as\_attachment plugin (which > works _great_ by the way), and you can set this plugin to store > attachments in either the file system or in the database. While > waiting for a real solution for the images issue in Radiant, I hacked > together a rich text version of Radiant using this plugin. My client > has been using it for 2 months now without a single problem. Glad to hear that, haven’t checked the guts of mephisto yet. What really amazed me about it is that broke webrick! (yeah, you need mongrel to run it, even for testing). Anyway, A few things are needed in the Radiant roadmap (as John said, plugin capability) and then everything will follow, blogging, assets, you name it! > > > Once we have a robust plugin system going I would love to see someone > > > That would probably be up the the plugin authors (and the Mephisto > > > > * * * > > removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid > [http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant](http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant) ## – Luis L. Multimedia systems Leaders are made, they are not born. They are made by hard effort, which is the price which all of us must pay to achieve any goal that is worthwhile. Vince Lombardi ---
**Author:** ![Nicholas\_Mulder\_SMu](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/848f3c/32.png) [@Nicholas\_Mulder\_SMu](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Nicholas_Mulder_SMu)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2006, 9:31pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/asset-manager-mephisto-style/67249/6 "2006-09-01T21:31:27Z")
Luis L. wrote: > The Mephisto style for assets sounds good, but plain or direct use of > their code could be difficult. > > They store the assets on the file system, on contrary that your desire > to leverage only on DB to distribute everything for Radiant. > > Maybe the way they choose to use it could change your mind. I’m sure it would be difficult to use their code without modification. However, I find I can revamp other people’s code almost twice as fast as it would take me to write it myself. If someone were to choose to write a plugin based off of the Mephisto code, I’m sure it would be much simpler than writing it from scratch. – John L. [http://wiseheartdesign.com](http://wiseheartdesign.com) ---
**Author:** ![Nicholas\_Mulder\_SMu](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/848f3c/32.png) [@Nicholas\_Mulder\_SMu](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Nicholas_Mulder_SMu)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2006, 1:41pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/asset-manager-mephisto-style/67249/7 "2006-09-04T13:41:44Z")
John W. Long wrote: > Once we have a robust plugin system going I would love to see someone > create an asset management solution similar to Mephisto’s. I’m not sure > if buckets trump the idea for attachments, but it is definitely causing > me to rethink my previous ideas about assets. Hi John, How hard do you think it would be to implement such a system in Radiant? I’m currently developing a rather hacked together version of Radiant for a clients portal (of which the first stage has a deadline of two weeks today) and I will need to implement some way of having multiple images per page and custom tags to include those images. I was thinking of just using the acts\_as\_attachment plugin and modifying the text filters to parse the custom image tags for the timebeing, or would having radius tags be a better plan of attack? I’m very interested to hear that there is a more robust plugin mechanism in development, are there any further details about this anywhere? Thanks, Kev ---
**Author:** ![Nicholas\_Mulder\_SMu](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/848f3c/32.png) [@Nicholas\_Mulder\_SMu](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Nicholas_Mulder_SMu)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2006, 5:49am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/asset-manager-mephisto-style/67249/8 "2006-09-05T05:49:05Z")
On Sep 4, 2006, at 8:41 PM, Kevin A. wrote: > Hi John, > > How hard do you think it would be to implement such a system in > Radiant? > > I’m currently developing a rather hacked together version of > Radiant for > a clients portal (of which the first stage has a deadline of two weeks > today) and I will need to implement some way of having multiple images > per page and custom tags to include those images. If you need something that ‘works now’ you could try Dror’s page- parts-type patch (which i cant find on Trac right now?). I used on our last client project and it worked fine. Bodhi ---
**Author:** ![Nicholas\_Mulder\_SMu](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/848f3c/32.png) [@Nicholas\_Mulder\_SMu](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Nicholas_Mulder_SMu)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2006, 12:44pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/asset-manager-mephisto-style/67249/9 "2006-09-05T12:44:52Z")
Bodhi wrote: > If you need something that ‘works now’ you could try Dror’s page- > parts-type patch (which i cant find on Trac right now?). I used on > our last client project and it worked fine. > > Bodhi I hadn’t seen any mention of that before. I found the related Trac ticket but it’s just giving an error - [http://dev.radiantcms.org/radiant/ticket/147](http://dev.radiantcms.org/radiant/ticket/147) Who’s the admin for the trac server? Seems like there is some data in that ticket that it doesn’t like. Kev