# Armageddon vs. polling for shared resources, ajax, stale bro

**URL:** <https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/armageddon-vs-polling-for-shared-resources-ajax-stale-bro/94240>\
**Category:** Rails\
**Created:** [April 26, 2006, 8:48am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/armageddon-vs-polling-for-shared-resources-ajax-stale-bro/94240 "2006-04-26T08:48:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![dracos](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/ea666f/32.png) [@dracos](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/dracos)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2006, 8:48am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/armageddon-vs-polling-for-shared-resources-ajax-stale-bro/94240/1 "2006-04-26T08:48:15Z")

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Hi,

I am using AJAX so much that I never refresh the entire webpage for  
the admin side of a webapp. If two people are viewing the same data  
and one person makes a change then I want the change to show up in the  
other person’s page.

I can have the client poll the server every two seconds to look for  
changes.

I’m not really interested in Comet for keeping a connection open  
between the client and server.

On the rails-core mailing list I read about armageddon and the use of  
Flash for real sockets so the server can push data to the client. That  
seems great but I’m wary of using Flash at all partly because I don’t  
know much about it and partly because I believe in sticking to  
webstandards like HTML, CSS and JavaScript. A future cell phone is  
more likely to have these three than having Flash. Are these worries  
unjustified? Will Rails sites using armageddon have to pay money to  
Macromedia? How many months until armageddon is available?

Thanks,  
Peter

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**Author:** ![dracos](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/ea666f/32.png) [@dracos](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/dracos)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2006, 9:46am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/armageddon-vs-polling-for-shared-resources-ajax-stale-bro/94240/2 "2006-04-26T09:46:55Z")

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You can use today armageddon-like technologies and you need to know  
nothing  
about flash:

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Disadvantage (requires flash 8, there other solutions buy they are all  
not  
so easy to integrate)

and you only have to pay money to macromedia if you buy their tools to  
create flashy content (or license the sourcecode of the flashplayer)

regards  
Roberto

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**Author:** ![dracos](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/ea666f/32.png) [@dracos](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/dracos)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2006, 5:26pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/armageddon-vs-polling-for-shared-resources-ajax-stale-bro/94240/3 "2006-04-26T17:26:24Z")

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On 4/26/06, Roberto S. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote:

> You can use today armageddon-like technologies and you need to know nothing  
> about flash:
> 
> [http://www.aflax.org/examples/sockets/sockets.html](http://www.aflax.org/examples/sockets/sockets.html)
> 
> Disadvantage (requires flash 8, there other solutions buy they are all not  
> so easy to integrate)

Thanks for the info. Do you mean the other solutions require flash \< 8?

Peter