# Any ideas for candidates for HOPL-III?

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**Created:** [July 15, 2006, 8:41am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/any-ideas-for-candidates-for-hopl-iii/98511 "2006-07-15T08:41:04Z")\
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“In 1978, the first History of Programming Language Conference (HOPL)  
described the development of 13 computer programming languages, the  
people who participated in that work, and the context in which it was  
undertaken. In 1993, HOPL-II contained 14 papers on the genesis and  
evolution of programming languages. It is time for HOPL-III, to be held  
with FCRC 2007 in San Diego. Each HOPL-III paper should detail the early  
history or evolution of a specific programming language. Preliminary  
ideas about each language should have been documented by 1996 and each  
language should have been in use by 1998.”

[http://research.ihost.com/hopl/](http://research.ihost.com/hopl/)

Ruby meets the age criteria.

–  
James B.

“Programs must be written for people to read, and only incidentally  
for machines to execute.”

- H. Abelson and G. Sussman  
(in "The Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs)

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**Author:** ![byrnejb](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/d2c977/32.png) [@byrnejb](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/byrnejb)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2006, 5:13pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/any-ideas-for-candidates-for-hopl-iii/98511/2 "2006-07-15T17:13:04Z")

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James,

Are you sure we can still submit? It listed some dates for paper  
submission last year. Unless a paper could be automatically put into  
the second round, I think we missed our chance as a community. I’d be  
interested in writing about Ruby – with some help of course \>\_\<

“Authors should submit a 1 page abstract by July 8, 2005. Full papers  
for the first round are due on August 15, 2005, with notification to  
authors in January 2006. Second round submissions will be due in August  
2006, with notification to authors in January 2007. Camera ready copy  
will be due in March 2007. Authors of accepted papers will be required  
to sign ACM copyright release forms.”

\_Steve

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**Author:** ![byrnejb](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/d2c977/32.png) [@byrnejb](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/byrnejb)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2006, 5:54pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/any-ideas-for-candidates-for-hopl-iii/98511/3 "2006-07-15T17:54:04Z")

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removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid wrote:

> James,
> 
> Are you sure we can still submit?

Further proof of the value of literacy.

I saw this mentioned on Lambda the Ultimate, scanned it quick, and (oh  
so cleverly) assumed that this would not be a topic for discussion on  
LtU if it weren’t still open.

Reading it (for real)now, I see the 2005 dates; thinking it was typo, I  
poked around, but found this page:

[http://research.ihost.com/hopl/calendar.html](http://research.ihost.com/hopl/calendar.html)

So indeed the boat has left the pier.

We can plan for HOPL IV in, what, 2021?

–  
James B.

“I never dispute another person’s delusions, just their facts.”

- Len Bullard

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**Author:** ![byrnejb](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/d2c977/32.png) [@byrnejb](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/byrnejb)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2006, 6:06pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/any-ideas-for-candidates-for-hopl-iii/98511/4 "2006-07-15T18:06:54Z")

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I’ll be in a retirment home by then – not really I’m 23 – but that is  
a really long time to have to wait. Argh! The injustices of ACM-HOPL.

Oh well! Maybe next time.

\_Steve