# Another Ruby on Rails certificate program

**URL:** <https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/another-ruby-on-rails-certificate-program/119872>\
**Category:** Ruby\
**Created:** [November 11, 2007, 6:14pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/another-ruby-on-rails-certificate-program/119872 "2007-11-11T18:14:22Z")\
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**Author:** ![Giles\_B](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/848f3c/32.png) [@Giles\_B](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Giles_B)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2007, 6:14pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/another-ruby-on-rails-certificate-program/119872/1 "2007-11-11T18:14:22Z")

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repent! the end is near!

[http://ipd.cti.depaul.edu/ror/Prog\_ror.htm](http://ipd.cti.depaul.edu/ror/Prog_ror.htm)

–  
Giles B.

Blog: [http://gilesbowkett.blogspot.com](http://gilesbowkett.blogspot.com)  
Portfolio: [http://www.gilesgoatboy.org](http://www.gilesgoatboy.org)  
Tumblelog: [http://giles.tumblr.com/](http://giles.tumblr.com/)

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**Author:** ![Giles\_B](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/848f3c/32.png) [@Giles\_B](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Giles_B)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2007, 1:07am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/another-ruby-on-rails-certificate-program/119872/2 "2007-11-12T01:07:44Z")

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On Nov 11, 2007, at 09:13 , Giles B. wrote:

> repent! the end is near!
> 
> [http://ipd.cti.depaul.edu/ror/Prog\_ror.htm](http://ipd.cti.depaul.edu/ror/Prog_ror.htm)

The end of what? I teach a certificate program for the university of  
washington extension program… I’m intensely curious what end is near.

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**Author:** ![Giles\_B](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/848f3c/32.png) [@Giles\_B](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Giles_B)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2007, 1:20am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/another-ruby-on-rails-certificate-program/119872/3 "2007-11-12T01:20:35Z")

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Ryan D. wrote:

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The end of life as we know it for the uncertified? 🙂

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**Author:** ![Giles\_B](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/848f3c/32.png) [@Giles\_B](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Giles_B)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2007, 5:17am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/another-ruby-on-rails-certificate-program/119872/4 "2007-11-12T05:17:32Z")

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$2500 for a 7 week course??? Can it really be better than just working  
through a good book on the subject?

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**Author:** ![Giles\_B](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/848f3c/32.png) [@Giles\_B](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Giles_B)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2007, 1:28am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/another-ruby-on-rails-certificate-program/119872/5 "2007-11-12T01:28:11Z")

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On Nov 11, 2007 7:18 PM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid)  
wrote:

> > washington extension program… I’m intensely curious what end is near.
> 
> The end of life as we know it for the uncertified? 🙂

Hey Ed,

I don’t know about you.

But I know that I’m certifiable. People have been telling me that for  
years.

And having met Ryan last weekend at RubyConf, I’m reasonably certain  
he’s certifiable too.

–  
Rick DeNatale

My blog on Ruby  
[http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/](http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/)

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**Author:** ![Giles\_B](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/848f3c/32.png) [@Giles\_B](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Giles_B)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2007, 7:24am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/another-ruby-on-rails-certificate-program/119872/6 "2007-11-12T07:24:44Z")

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What if the book comes with a Cert in the back, then when you get to  
the end you’re certified.  
Actually, the certification should be printable but only if you can  
solve a programming puzzle from the book. A puzzle that is tied to  
your name and birth date and requires understanding of topics from  
each chapter of the book to complete the puzzle and successfully  
generate your printable certification in PDF all done with Ruby…

There’s nothing wrong with certifications, or diplomas or degrees,  
just as long as they’re taken for what each of them are individually  
in their own setting. Don’t knock it until you see the results.

Analogies aside.

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**Post date:** [November 12, 2007, 6:24am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/another-ruby-on-rails-certificate-program/119872/7 "2007-11-12T06:24:33Z")

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If you just read a book, then you aren’t a Certified Ruby and Rails  
Developer™!

–Jeremy

On Nov 11, 2007 11:17 PM, Lloyd L. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote:

> ## $2500 for a 7 week course??? Can it really be better than just working through a good book on the subject?
> 
> Posted via [http://www.ruby-forum.com/](http://www.ruby-forum.com/).

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**Post date:** [November 12, 2007, 3:21pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/another-ruby-on-rails-certificate-program/119872/8 "2007-11-12T15:21:50Z")

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On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 01:24:21 -0500, John J. wrote:

> What if the book comes with a Cert in the back, then when you get to  
> the end you’re certified.

Kinda like the Monster[.com] at the End of This Book?
