# Admin says no to Ruby on Rails

**URL:** <https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/admin-says-no-to-ruby-on-rails/128442>\
**Category:** Rails\
**Created:** [February 7, 2008, 6:45pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/admin-says-no-to-ruby-on-rails/128442 "2008-02-07T18:45:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 2\
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**Author:** ![csci\_student](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/47e85d/32.png) [@csci\_student](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/csci_student)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2008, 6:45pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/admin-says-no-to-ruby-on-rails/128442/1 "2008-02-07T18:45:14Z")

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I need some info for an admin who is unwilling to support Ruby on Rails  
because he says it “uses a container that has to be bounced which can  
cause problems with the server.”

The admin also says he has been reading and claims Rails is causing  
problems for many companies.

I need to convince this admin that Rails is worth supporting.

I also need some info to convince this admin Rails is not more of a  
security risk than say hosting PHP applications.

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**Author:** ![csci\_student](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/47e85d/32.png) [@csci\_student](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/csci_student)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2008, 9:35am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/admin-says-no-to-ruby-on-rails/128442/2 "2008-02-08T09:35:12Z")

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On 7 Feb 2008, at 17:45, M. B. wrote:

> I need some info for an admin who is unwilling to support Ruby on  
> Rails  
> because he says it “uses a container that has to be bounced which can  
> cause problems with the server.”

Has to be bounced ? we never restart our mongrels except for upgrades

> The admin also says he has been reading and claims Rails is causing  
> problems for many companies.

Rails and shared hosting don’t get along that well, but other than  
that I wouldn’t worry too much

> I need to convince this admin that Rails is worth supporting.
> 
> I also need some info to convince this admin Rails is not more of a  
> security risk than say hosting PHP applications.

You can write an insecure application in any language/framework.  
Comparing rails to php is a bit odd, one being a language and the  
other a framework. It is true though that rails tries hard to  
encourage secure behaviour by default (eg if ou use the default AR  
stuff you should be safe from sql injection)

Fred