# About Tcl/Tk **URL:** \ **Category:** Ruby\ **Created:** [January 9, 2006, 9:40am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/about-tcl-tk/94800 "2006-01-09T09:40:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 2\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Surgeon](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Surgeon](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Surgeon)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2006, 9:40am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/about-tcl-tk/94800/1 "2006-01-09T09:40:07Z")
Hi, In order to build GUIs with Ruby, should I learn Tk? By the way, I have tried to find Tk tutorials and I have seen that all of them start with Tcl. Are Tcl and Tk “inseparable” things? If I want to use/learn Tk, should I learn Tcl first? Thanks in advance. ---
**Author:** ![Surgeon](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Surgeon](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/Surgeon)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2006, 3:05pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/about-tcl-tk/94800/2 "2006-01-09T15:05:37Z")
Surgeon wrote: > In order to build GUIs with Ruby, should I learn Tk? No, there is no need for learning Tk if you do not want to use it. At [http://www.trug.ca/Ruby\_GUI\_Toolkits](http://www.trug.ca/Ruby_GUI_Toolkits) you will find some other toolkits available for Ruby. Most of those toolkits use different ways of `doing things’, learning one does not mean knowing all about the others. Of course, some general aspects of gui-programming can be learned from using any toolkit. > By the way, I have tried to find Tk tutorials and I have seen that all > of them start with Tcl. Are Tcl and Tk “inseparable” things? If I want > to use/learn Tk, should I learn Tcl first? Again, no. Tcl is a programming language like Ruby, Tk is just a toolkit. For a very short tutorial, see: [http://members.chello.nl/~k.vangelder/ruby/learntk/](http://members.chello.nl/~k.vangelder/ruby/learntk/) Have fun 😉