# 1.9 on Vista, would like tips, best practices **URL:** \ **Category:** Ruby\ **Created:** [February 12, 2009, 12:47am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/1-9-on-vista-would-like-tips-best-practices/160130 "2009-02-12T00:47:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
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I was wondering what is the best way to install 1.9.1 on MS Vista. Do I need to install ming? Also, what library concerns do I need to be aware of? I’m a little averse to using VMware (to mimic a linux install), but have no problem doing it if need be. Friend’s laptop, Windows, blah, blah… Todd ---
**Author:** ![toadkicker](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/5fc32e/32.png) [@toadkicker](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/toadkicker)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2009, 4:20am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/1-9-on-vista-would-like-tips-best-practices/160130/2 "2009-02-12T04:20:42Z")
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Todd B. [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > I was wondering what is the best way to install 1.9.1 on MS Vista. Do > I need to install ming? Also, what library concerns do I need to be > aware of? I’m a little averse to using VMware (to mimic a linux > install), but have no problem doing it if need be. Friend’s laptop, > Windows, blah, blah… Never mind; works find out of the box (the zipped download). A couple of tests show that it isn’t belabored with dependencies. Sorry for the noise. I’ll come back with more noise though if gems give me a problem 🙂 Thanks, you guys (ruby devs) for such a cool dev tool! Todd ---
**Author:** ![toadkicker](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/5fc32e/32.png) [@toadkicker](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/toadkicker)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2009, 5:11am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/1-9-on-vista-would-like-tips-best-practices/160130/3 "2009-02-12T05:11:34Z")
Todd B. wrote: > Never mind; works find out of the box (the zipped download). A couple > of tests show that it isn’t belabored with dependencies. Sorry for > the noise. I’ll come back with more noise though if gems give me a > problem 🙂 I just switched from Vista to Kubuntu. The performance difference is like night and day! And the Vista is still there, for Office and such, in a dual boot… ---
**Author:** ![toadkicker](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/5fc32e/32.png) [@toadkicker](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/toadkicker)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2009, 6:12am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/1-9-on-vista-would-like-tips-best-practices/160130/4 "2009-02-12T06:12:23Z")
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Phlip [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > I just switched from Vista to Kubuntu. The performance difference is like > night and day! And the Vista is still there, for Office and such, in a dual > boot… Which KDE do you have? I briefly tried KDE 4.1 on openSUSE 11.1 but went back to Gnome 2.24. It’s much lighter weight. By the way, I saw a post a couple days ago where someone did a performance test of XP, Vista and Windows 7 Beta on a 512 MB machine. Windows 7 was better than Vista but XP was still better! ## [https://twitter.com/znmeb/status/1197380182](https://twitter.com/znmeb/status/1197380182) M. Edward (Ed) Borasky I’ve never met a happy clam. In fact, most of them were pretty steamed. ---
**Author:** ![toadkicker](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/5fc32e/32.png) [@toadkicker](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/toadkicker)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2009, 6:50am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/1-9-on-vista-would-like-tips-best-practices/160130/5 "2009-02-12T06:50:59Z")
M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote: > Which KDE do you have? I briefly tried KDE 4.1 on openSUSE 11.1 but > went back to Gnome 2.24. 4.1.3 with Kubuntu 8.10. Alt-tab works (but I configured it to show windows and not excessively trippy hallucinations when it flicks thru them). Shift-alt-tab does not work - this is a prime example of “cargo cult engineering”, where the GUI impersonates Windows conventions without reading or understanding the “Common User Access” research that came before them… Even without the Graphic key raising the root menu, I can keep my fingers on the keyboard longer than with Windows, and much much longer than with a Mac. > It’s much lighter weight. By the way, I saw a > post a couple days ago where someone did a performance test of XP, > Vista and Windows 7 Beta on a 512 MB machine. Windows 7 was better > than Vista but XP was still better! And Linux obviously lined them up and blew them out of the water, right? BTW both Ruby and big batch files like Rake are mondo faster… ---
**Author:** ![toadkicker](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/5fc32e/32.png) [@toadkicker](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/toadkicker)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2009, 7:07am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/1-9-on-vista-would-like-tips-best-practices/160130/6 "2009-02-12T07:07:58Z")
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 9:48 PM, Phlip [removed\_email\_address@domain.invalid](mailto:removed_email_address@domain.invalid) wrote: > the keyboard longer than with Windows, and much much longer than with a Mac. > Yeah … I dearly love Compiz on Gnome but I had to turn it off – > it’s not quite stable yet. I’ve never owned an Apple product, and I don’t intend to start any time soon. 🙂 > And Linux obviously lined them up and blew them out of the water, right? I didn’t attempt to interject Linux into _that_ discusssion. ZDNet is not a place where I want my name dragged into a flamewar. Besides, the openSUSE community manager is a regular columnist there. 🙂 > BTW both Ruby and big batch files like Rake are mondo faster… If you’re on a 32-bit machine and using the “stock” Ruby interpreter, you can probably pick up a modest speed increase by recompiling the Ruby interpreter using the GCC “-march=native -O3” options. And of course you can also get a speed boost for a lot of jobs by using jRuby. jRuby might be your best bet if you’re constrained to run on Windows for some reason. You get less of a boost from recompiling on a 64-bit machine because the binaries are already compiled knowing they’ve got the whole AMD64 / x86\_64 architecture to play with. The tests I ran a week or so ago on my 64-bit machine didn’t give me enough boost from a recompile to be worth the effort. > – M. Edward (Ed) Borasky I’ve never met a happy clam. In fact, most of them were pretty steamed. ---
**Author:** ![toadkicker](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/5fc32e/32.png) [@toadkicker](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/toadkicker)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2009, 4:30pm UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/1-9-on-vista-would-like-tips-best-practices/160130/7 "2009-02-13T16:30:45Z")
Todd B. wrote: > I was wondering what is the best way to install 1.9.1 on MS Vista. Do > I need to install ming? Also, what library concerns do I need to be > aware of? I’m a little averse to using VMware (to mimic a linux > install), but have no problem doing it if need be. Friend’s laptop, > Windows, blah, blah… > > Todd Although I prefer windows, I do ruby in linux + virtualbox. While it’s easy enough to get basic ruby and rails working in windows, plugin dependencies are a nightmare. Save yourself the headache. Putty (SSH terminal) + virtualbox|vmware + linux server distro (no gui) is the best way. I look at this way, any serious rails app will get deployed to a linux server anyway. ---
**Author:** ![toadkicker](https://www.ruby-forum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/5fc32e/32.png) [@toadkicker](https://www.ruby-forum.com/u/toadkicker)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2009, 6:24am UTC](https://www.ruby-forum.com/t/1-9-on-vista-would-like-tips-best-practices/160130/8 "2009-02-14T06:24:56Z")
Todd B. wrote: > I was wondering what is the best way to install 1.9.1 on MS Vista. Do > I need to install ming? Also, what library concerns do I need to be > aware of? I’m a little averse to using VMware (to mimic a linux > install), but have no problem doing it if need be. Friend’s laptop, > Windows, blah, blah… I’ve heard of one person using mingw for it: [http://www.holymonkey.com/buildingshoesinwindows](http://www.holymonkey.com/buildingshoesinwindows) you could also use virtualbox and install ubuntu within it. Cheers! -=r