Forum: Ruby I need some advice

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Todd S. (Guest)
on 2007-02-05 21:21
Hi,
  I am new to Ruby and looking for some advice.  There is a upcoming
conference on Ruby in my hometown of Columbus, Ohio.  Before I shell out
$500 for a ticket I was
Wondering if anyone has heard these guys speak.  The list of speakers
include: Bruce Tate, Stuart Halloway, Justin Gehtland, and Neal Ford.
Do you think it would be worth it to attend?  You can check out the
details at www.erubycon.com.  The conference runs February 9-11 so a
quick response would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Todd S.
Lyle J. (Guest)
on 2007-02-05 21:34
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On 2/5/07, Todd S. <removed_email_address@domain.invalid> wrote:

>   I am new to Ruby and looking for some advice.  There is a upcoming
> conference on Ruby in my hometown of Columbus, Ohio.  Before I shell out
> $500 for a ticket I was
> Wondering if anyone has heard these guys speak...

My primary concern about this conference would be how they're going to
fill three days with only the seven people (currently) listed as
conference speakers. I'd also want to know more about the agenda and
the specific topics to be covered. If, as you say, you are new to Ruby
and they're covering more advanced topics, it might go over your head
and not be all that useful.

Of the people listed on the web site as speakers, I've only ever heard
Jim W. speak in person. Jim's a great presenter, and you will
definitely learn something useful from him. But I have heard of some
of the other speakers. Bruce Tate, for example, is a well-known
consultant and the author of "Beyond Java" and "From Java to Ruby"
(among other books).
Jim S. (Guest)
on 2007-02-05 21:36
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I believe the dates have changed to: July 16, 17 and 18.  Also, I
think the fees have been dramatically reduced.

While the main webpage has not been updated, click on the REGISTRATION
link at
http://erubycon.eventbrite.com/ and you'll see the new dates and prices.

Jim S.
Jeff B. (Guest)
on 2007-02-05 21:49
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On 2/5/07, Todd S. <removed_email_address@domain.invalid> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>   I am new to Ruby and looking for some advice.  There is a upcoming
> conference on Ruby in my hometown of Columbus, Ohio.  Before I shell out
> $500 for a ticket I was
> Wondering if anyone has heard these guys speak.  The list of speakers
> include: Bruce Tate, Stuart Halloway, Justin Gehtland, and Neal Ford.
> Do you think it would be worth it to attend?  You can check out the
> details at www.erubycon.com.  The conference runs February 9-11 so a
> quick response would be appreciated.



Welcome to Ruby! I think you'll find that it is a truly enjoyable
language
and wonderful community to work with.

I've heard Bruce, Stuart, Justin, and Neal talk on the NFJS tour and
Bruce
was one of the guys who convinced me to try Ruby. I went there to learn
about Java and came out wanting to learn more about Ruby :-)

They are all intelligent guys and are inspiring to listen to. I
personally
enjoy hearing them present anytime I have the opportunity.

All that being said, you need to consider what your goals are for
attending.
Conferences are wonderful to learn what is going on with the technology,
learn some best practices, get some general direction, and to network
with
the community, but they usually don't have the time to go in depth into
a
subject (although sometimes training is offered additionally). So weigh
all
that when considering your options. Personally, I really enjoy going to
the
conferences when I have the chance.


Jeff B., MasterView core team
Inspired Horizons
http://inspiredhorizons.com/
pat eyler (Guest)
on 2007-02-05 23:00
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On 2/5/07, Lyle J. <removed_email_address@domain.invalid> wrote:
> the specific topics to be covered. If, as you say, you are new to Ruby
> and they're covering more advanced topics, it might go over your head
> and not be all that useful.
>
> Of the people listed on the web site as speakers, I've only ever heard
> Jim W. speak in person. Jim's a great presenter, and you will
> definitely learn something useful from him. But I have heard of some
> of the other speakers. Bruce Tate, for example, is a well-known
> consultant and the author of "Beyond Java" and "From Java to Ruby"
> (among other books).
>

Neal Ford put on a pretty good 'DSLs in Ruby' talk at OSCon.


As a beginner, you might want to wait for either a nearby regional
RubyConf (there's one in SW Michigan this summer), or for a RailsEdge
type of training event instead of going to three day enterprise ruby
conference that's (as pointed out above) likely to be pretty advanced.
Patrick H. (Guest)
on 2007-02-06 06:47
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> As a beginner, you might want to wait for either a nearby regional
> RubyConf (there's one in SW Michigan this summer), or for a RailsEdge
> type of training event instead of going to three day enterprise ruby
> conference that's (as pointed out above) likely to be pretty advanced.

We would love to see you at RubyMI, but you might also want to
checkout the Columbus Ruby Brigade (http://columbusrb.com/). I hear
they have a pretty good turnout.

pth
Winston T. (Guest)
on 2007-02-06 15:50
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Definitely start off by going to your local user group.  If you are
interested in pursing things further, then check out the conference.
It's a good price for that many days.  Not only that, but it's in your
backyard.

Stuart Halloway and Justin Gehtland are both "two thumbs up" speakers.
 They both learned (or where heavily influenced by) the same person
for their speaking style (don't recall the exact name Stuart gave
out).  I've heard Stuart talk the most--over a couple days at NFJS
with a small group of about 12 people.  The talks were insightful with
plenty of energy and engagement.  (i.e. you shouldn't fall asleep :)
).

-Winston T.
Winston T. (Guest)
on 2007-02-06 15:58
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Here's some more information:
http://groups.google.com/group/columbusrb/browse_t...

There's a discount ($50) for user groups (which brings it down to $199).
The dates are final (July 16-18).
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