After years of programming in C++, Java et al my new job used Smalltalk
which I have now been completely sold on I would like to progress
into Ruby with it being similar and one of the up and coming dynamic
languages of choice. Still donât understand why Smalltalk isnât more
popular though lol.
However the thing I probably most like is the binary image and multiple
window IDE with Smalltalk; navigation through code seems so much easier
than file based. Is there a Ruby IDE that anyone can recommend that will
make me want to choose it over Smalltalk?
After years of programming in C++, Java et al my new job used Smalltalk
which I have now been completely sold on I would like to progress
into Ruby with it being similar and one of the up and coming dynamic
languages of choice. Still donât understand why Smalltalk isnât more
popular though lol.
Join the club. I also donât understand why Smalltalk isnât more
popular. The only explanation I have is that Smalltalk environments
where expensive at the time that Java hit the scene. Of course now you
can use Squeak and maybe other Smalltalk environments for free, but
the damage has been done. Itâs tough to resurrect a past language once
the crowd has moved on.
However the thing I probably most like is the binary image and multiple
window IDE with Smalltalk; navigation through code seems so much easier
than file based. Is there a Ruby IDE that anyone can recommend that will
make me want to choose it over Smalltalk?
Iâm not aware of any Ruby IDE is that is really like a Smalltalk
environment.
On Saturday 04 February 2006 05:28 am, Chris wrote:
After years of programming in C++, Java et al my new job used Smalltalk
which I have now been completely sold on I would like to progress
into Ruby with it being similar and one of the up and coming dynamic
languages of choice. Still donât understand why Smalltalk isnât more
popular though lol.
However the thing I probably most like is the binary image and multiple
window IDE with Smalltalk; navigation through code seems so much easier
than file based. Is there a Ruby IDE that anyone can recommend that will
make me want to choose it over Smalltalk?
Just out of curiosity, what features are you looking for?
Donât use lol. Never. Ever. Itâs not ponctuation, itâs not a standalone
sentence, itâs not even a proper word, for cripes sake.
lol
thatâs like telling people not to top post anymore. or telling people
about their spelling checker.
sorry. lol. couldnât resist. at least i got my poncuation right.
and to keep this even remotely on topic:
The Smalltalk image-based paradigm was comfortable,
not to those of us who cut our teeth on turbo pascal v3.0. i tried to
get into oberon (on dos way back when) which had a similar feel to a
smalltalk environment. i guess some people latch right on to it and
feel at home, but most people didnât and neither did the industryâŚ
DĂ ?a Piatok 03 FebruĂÂĄr 2006 21:28 Chris napĂÂsal:
Still donât understand why Smalltalk isnât more popular
Donât use lol. Never. Ever. Itâs not ponctuation, itâs not a
standalone
sentence, itâs not even a proper word, for cripes sake.
The Smalltalk image-based paradigm was comfortable, but it had its
disadvantages too. It was very difficult to deploy an application short
of
copying over the entire image, and the packaging systems that existed
were
largely vendor-specific and pretty much completely incompatible. And
speaking
of vendor incompatibility, thereâs whole sagas to speak there. The fact
that
Smalltalk essentially was its IDE also made it hard to remotely patch up
a
server you actually made to run on a headless machine. Etcetcetc.
Smalltalk was / is a great language, but it got a -lot- of very
essential
things wrong, so I donât really wonder about the end of the ST era.
Personally, I prefer the fact I very rarely actually need an IDE for
Ruby
because everything is so damn intuitive, but KDevelopis my homie for the
creature comforts of organizing files in a project and syntax
highlighting
when I donât feel like switching over to XEmacs all the time.
DĂ ?a Pondelok 06 FebruĂÂĄr 2006 14:29 tony summerfelt napĂÂsal:
at least i got my poncuation right.
However, your spelling checker doesnât seem to work
ah, well, i knew my attempt at cleverness would be lost on some. check
out his spelling first adding [sic] after my intentional
mis-spelling would have been to too obvious
DĂ ?a Utorok 07 FebruĂÂĄr 2006 14:07 tony summerfelt napĂÂsal:
David V. wrote on 2/6/2006 6:23 PM:
DĂ ?a Pondelok 06 FebruĂÂĄr 2006 14:29 tony summerfelt napĂÂsal:
at least i got my poncuation right.
However, your spelling checker doesnât seem to work
ah, well, i knew my attempt at cleverness would be lost on some. check
out his spelling first adding [sic] after my intentional
mis-spelling would have been to too obvious
bangs head against wall
I blame five years of bilingual Franco-Slovak highschool - that left
some
major brain damage. Iâve possibly been more ridiculed by native english
speakers for that particular personal quirk with the word âpunctuationâ
(is
that finally correct?) than for any other language rape Iâve managed to
commit.
Well, thatâs another complete embarassment of the day. Could be worse.
The guy
with the buttsecks owl could have mailed the image to the list instead
of
just a link.
Iâm well aware of that, but I still canât bear the stand of the TLA even
then.
We have these things called âonomatopoeiaâ that work just as well. I
indicate
laughter with a âHehâ - same number of letters to type, not nearly as
lame.
Etc.
DĂ ?a Ă tvrtok 09 FebruĂÂĄr 2006 14:39 Christian N. napĂÂsal:
I actually know people that speak âLOLâ out when they laughâŚ
The perfect birthday gift for those people is a plush owl with âO RLY?â
written on it. I should also start a charity to provide people willing
to
slap sickos like that with free trouts Etc.
Iâm well aware of that, but I still canât bear the stand of the TLA even then.
We have these things called âonomatopoeiaâ that work just as well. I indicate
laughter with a âHehâ - same number of letters to type, not nearly as lame.
Etc.
I actually know people that speak âLOLâ out when they laughâŚ
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