Daniel Berger and I have been having an off-list discussion about his memoize.rb library. You can find that library at: http://raa.ruby-lang.org/project/memoize/ In the course of the discussion, I ended up building a library of my own, to show Daniel what I was talking about. Daniel thought it might be worth moving the discussion of my new library here, to get community feedback. The primary difference between our two approaches is that Daniel's library is built to memoize individual objects, while mine is intended to link all instance method calls for a class of objects to a single cache. I wanted this behavior because I felt it would increase cache hits and make memoizing methods that much more worthwhile. Daniel pointed out though that a finer grained control can be important, to avoid exhausting memory with the cache. Luckily, Ruby's syntax makes it trivial to use my library to alter a unique object as well. Here's an example of using my library to memoize an instance method, the intended usage: #!/usr/local/bin/ruby -w # instance_methods.rb # # Created by James Edward Gray II on 2006-01-23. # Copyright 2006 Gray Productions. All rights reserved. require "memoizable" class Fibonacci extend Memoizable def fib( num ) return num if num < 2 fib(num - 1) + fib(num - 2) end memoize :fib end puts "This method is memoized, and will run very fast..." start = Time.now puts "fib(100): #{Fibonacci.new.fib(100)}" puts "Run time: #{Time.now - start} seconds" puts puts "All objects share a cache, so this call, is even faster..." start = Time.now puts "fib(100): #{Fibonacci.new.fib(100)}" # simple cache hit puts "Run time: #{Time.now - start} seconds" __END__ Also, here is how you would use the library to affect individual objects: #!/usr/local/bin/ruby -w # singleton_objects.rb # # Created by James Edward Gray II on 2006-01-23. # Copyright 2006 Gray Productions. All rights reserved. require "memoizable" class Fibonacci def fib( num ) return num if num < 2 fib(num - 1) + fib(num - 2) end end slow = Fibonacci.new puts "This method is not memoized and thus slow..." start = Time.now puts "slow.fib(30): #{slow.fib(30)}" puts " Run time: #{Time.now - start} seconds" fast = Fibonacci.new class << fast # memoize just this object extend Memoizable memoize :fib end puts puts "We can fix that for a unique object..." start = Time.now puts "fast.fib(30): #{fast.fib(30)}" puts " Run time: #{Time.now - start} seconds" puts puts "But the original is still slow..." start = Time.now puts "slow.fib(30): #{slow.fib(30)}" puts " Run time: #{Time.now - start} seconds" __END__ My library also works for class/module methods and even top-level methods, though I will spare you those examples. The other difference between our libraries is that Daniel's supports using a file for persistent caching, while my library supports using a custom cache object. That means that it's a little more work to cache to a file using mine, but you can do other kinds of caching as well. Here's a file cache example: #!/usr/local/bin/ruby -w # file_persistance.rb # # Created by James Edward Gray II on 2006-01-23. # Copyright 2006 Gray Productions. All rights reserved. require "memoizable" # # A trivial implementation of a custom cache. This cache uses disk storage, # instead of a Hash in memory. Access is slower than using an in- memory cache, # though still much faster than a non-memoized method, but persistant between # program runs. # # *WARNING*: This implementation is not thread-safe! # class FileCache def initialize( path ) @path = path end def []( key ) if File.exist? @path File.foreach(@path) do |entry| return entry.split(" ").last.to_i if entry =~ /\A#{key}: / end end nil end def []=( key, value ) File.open(@path, "a") { |cache| cache.puts "#{key}: #{value}" } end end class Fibonacci extend Memoizable def fib( num ) return num if num < 2 fib(num - 1) + fib(num - 2) end memoize :fib, FileCache.new("fib_cache.txt") end puts "This method is memoized using a file-based cache. See fib_cache.txt..." start = Time.now puts "fib(100): #{Fibonacci.new.fib(100)}" puts "Run time: #{Time.now - start} seconds" puts puts "Run again to see the file cache at work." __END__ You can find an example using weak references and the actual library code in the "Memoization" section of the following article from my blog: http://blog.grayproductions.net/articles/2006/01/20/caching-and- memoization The point of posting all this here is to give people a chance to express concerns over my implementation. Daniel was avoiding going down this road because of issues raised by this community. Raise away. ;) If there is any interest, and we don't prove the library horribly broken, I would be happy to package it up. Thanks. James Edward Gray II
on 24.01.2006 18:26
on 24.01.2006 21:21
James Gray wrote: > Daniel Berger and I have been having an off-list discussion about his > memoize.rb library. You can find that library at: > > http://raa.ruby-lang.org/project/memoize/ > > In the course of the discussion, I ended up building a library of my > own, to show Daniel what I was talking about. Daniel thought it > might be worth moving the discussion of my new library here, to get > community feedback. > > < snip feature discussion due to RForum /> Good stuff! The only idea I have just from an end-user perspective is that you could hook into Module#append_features to enable using #include instead of #extend at the class level (this should also allow just using #extend on individual objects without having to explicitly open the singleton class). > Thanks. > > James Edward Gray II E
on 25.01.2006 00:33
On Wed, Jan 25, 2006 at 01:27:25AM +0900, James Edward Gray II wrote: > Daniel Berger and I have been having an off-list discussion about his > memoize.rb library. [...] > The primary difference between our two approaches is that Daniel's > library is built to memoize individual objects, while mine is > intended to link all instance method calls for a class of objects to > a single cache. I also generalized Daniel's memoize.rb to support class-level memoization some time ago[1]: http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/cgi-bin/scat.rb/ruby/ruby-talk/173587 Should I also release it? ;) > class Fibonacci > extend Memoizable > > def fib( num ) > return num if num < 2 > fib(num - 1) + fib(num - 2) > end > memoize :fib, FileCache.new("fib_cache.txt") > end I kept memoize.rb's interface, but I think I prefer this approach; maybe special-casing for strings could make sense though... > You can find an example using weak references and the actual library > code in the "Memoization" section of the following article from my blog: > > http://blog.grayproductions.net/articles/2006/01/20/caching-and-memoization > > The point of posting all this here is to give people a chance to > express concerns over my implementation. Daniel was avoiding going > down this road because of issues raised by this community. Raise > away. ;) I'm not sure about the ([Class, Module].include?(self.class) ? self : self.class) part; that way, you cannot memoize singleton methods from Module/Class objects. In my implementation, I distinguished between Module#instance_memoize and Object#memoize (after including Memoize). Also, original = "_#{name}" would need a longer prefix IMO. Finally, not that it really matters, but the WeakCache is fairly inefficient (one lambda per key); see that other thread (WeakRef hash) or http://eigenclass.org/hiki.rb?weakhash+and+weakref for other implementations. [1] IIRC persistent caching in Daniel Berger's memoize.rb was inspired by something I wrote, I did a sort of rewrite of memoize.rb and now see my name mentioned in your blog; it seems memoize.rb and I are bound by the string of destiny (*^_^*)
on 25.01.2006 05:11
On Jan 24, 2006, at 2:21 PM, Eero Saynatkari wrote: >> >> < snip feature discussion due to RForum /> > > Good stuff! The only idea I have just from an end-user > perspective is that you could hook into Module#append_features > to enable using #include instead of #extend at the class > level (this should also allow just using #extend on individual > objects without having to explicitly open the singleton class). That's an interesting idea. It does seem this is what extend() is for though and it's certainly been used like this in the past (see Forwardable). I do like the idea of not having to use the singleton class on individual objects though. Hmm, wait, doesn't that work now... <checks> Yep, seems to. What do others think, is extend() okay in the classes? James Edward Gray II
on 25.01.2006 16:50
On Jan 24, 2006, at 5:31 PM, Mauricio Fernandez wrote: > I also generalized Daniel's memoize.rb to support class-level > memoization some time ago[1]: > > http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/cgi-bin/scat.rb/ruby/ruby-talk/173587 I should have mentioned that. Daniel did point me to this message during our conversation. > I kept memoize.rb's interface, but I think I prefer this approach; > maybe > special-casing for strings could make sense though... Honestly, I wasn't planning to provide any caches at all, just let users make their own. Now that you mention it though, pre-loading some is a neat idea. People could have access to Memoize::WeakCache and Memoize::FileCache for example. I haven't seen a file cache I like yet though. :) You use a file if you want persistence or to save memory. The file cache used by memoize.rb gets you persistence, but really only for one instance of your program running simultaneously. It doesn't save memory at all. If we want to go all the way, we have to start reading from the file cache too. Then we need to make the check for an entry in the file cache and storing it if it's not there atomic, which I guess we could do with flock(). Of course, then another process using the file could halt for a good period while we calculate what to add. I guess there's no harm in checking for a value and finding it not there, then starting our calculation. If another process added it before we were done, we could just save over it. (The whole point of memoization is that we should get the same answer.) For that though, we really need a database format of some sort. We could probably use SQLite or KirbyBase here. My own file example does read from the cache, but is incredibly trivial. It also can't deal with multiple processes using the same cache. My point in showing it was that it's not too difficult to roll your own, knowing what tradeoffs you can accept. What do you (and others) think? Should we provide default cache objects? If so, how should the file cache work? >> away. ;) > > I'm not sure about the > ([Class, Module].include?(self.class) ? self : self.class) > part; that way, you cannot memoize singleton methods from Module/Class > objects. I agree. That's my least favorite part. > In my implementation, I distinguished between > Module#instance_memoize and Object#memoize (after including Memoize). If we're going to go ahead and add a method to Module, why don't we just eliminate the need for include/extend altogether? If I put a method in Module and a method in Objet, they can have identical names and interface, just work differently under the hood. Is there any reason not to do this? > Also, > original = "_#{name}" > would need a longer prefix IMO. How does "__unmemoized_#{name}__" grab you? > Finally, not that it really matters, but the WeakCache is fairly > inefficient (one lambda per key); see that other thread (WeakRef hash) > or > http://eigenclass.org/hiki.rb?weakhash+and+weakref > for other implementations. My goal was to keep the examples very simple, since it's really about memoize(). However, I loved SimpleWeakCache from your blog and am now using that. Thanks! James Edward Gray II
on 25.01.2006 19:55
2006/1/24, James Edward Gray II <james@grayproductions.net>: Going back to the original question which approach to favour... > The primary difference between our two approaches is that Daniel's > library is built to memoize individual objects, while mine is > intended to link all instance method calls for a class of objects to > a single cache. > > I wanted this behavior because I felt it would increase cache hits > and make memoizing methods that much more worthwhile. Daniel pointed > out though that a finer grained control can be important, to avoid > exhausting memory with the cache. Luckily, Ruby's syntax makes it > trivial to use my library to alter a unique object as well. I may have missed something but from what I understand I see a complete different problem: if you memoize for all objects of a class then you have two options: either use only method name and args as key (which I believe you do because you want better cache hits) *or* store add something that identifies the instance (object id, the object itself) which clearly would lead to cache hit ratios like in Daniel's approach. If you have a single cache for all (first alternative) you risk that cached results are wrong because they may depend on individiual object's state which you do not reflect in the cache. If you choose the second approach you make things more complicated than necessary (think of GC for example and how the cache gets notified if content is invalidated etc.). So, basically I prefer Daniel's simpler approach - especially since you can achieve the same: just create an instance that contains all code (either directly or by delegation) that is expected to be slow (and thus should be memoized) and memoize on that class. > My library also works for class/module methods and even top-level > methods, though I will spare you those examples. > > The other difference between our libraries is that Daniel's supports > using a file for persistent caching, while my library supports using > a custom cache object. That means that it's a little more work to > cache to a file using mine, but you can do other kinds of caching as > well. Here's a file cache example: I like the idea with a generalized cache. Default is a hash but it can be replaced by some file handling object that adhers to the same interface (even multilel caching with a LRU cache in mem and the whole cache on disk can be done... :-) Kind regards robert
on 25.01.2006 20:26
On Jan 25, 2006, at 12:55 PM, Robert Klemme wrote: > So, basically I prefer Daniel's simpler approach - especially since > you can achieve the same: just create an instance that contains all > code (either directly or by delegation) that is expected to be slow > (and thus should be memoized) and memoize on that class. Can you show an example or two here? Using the current memoize.rb, how do we get objects A, B, and C using the same cache? I guess I'm having trouble getting my head around it. Thanks. James Edward Gray II
on 26.01.2006 14:10
James Edward Gray II wrote: > On Jan 25, 2006, at 12:55 PM, Robert Klemme wrote: > >> So, basically I prefer Daniel's simpler approach - especially since >> you can achieve the same: just create an instance that contains all >> code (either directly or by delegation) that is expected to be slow >> (and thus should be memoized) and memoize on that class. > > Can you show an example or two here? Using the current memoize.rb, > how do we get objects A, B, and C using the same cache? I guess I'm > having trouble getting my head around it. class SillySomething extend Memoizable def initialize() @a,@b,@c = A.new, B.new, C.new # or other initialization end def calculate_foo(quirk, quark, quork) x = @a.foo(quirk) + @b.doit(quark) if x > 10 x += @c.doh(quork, @a) else x - 2 end x end memoize :calculate_foo end The idea is to group relevant parts of your object model in a single class and use an instance of that for memoization. Maybe I can add an explanation to make it more clear: if you have a class X with method Y that calculates something results of invoking Y on several instances of X can only be memoized in the same cache if (i) either they are not influenced by state of X instances or (ii) memoization somehow uses this state to control lookup. If (i) I don't see the point in having several objects that do exactly the same calculation - methods might even be class methods (i.e. singleton methods of the *single* class instance X). So there is actually no need for a cache that covers several instances. If (ii) you gain nothing by having a centralized cache because you'll have to keep memoized values from different instances separate; in fact you add a level of lookup (first object, then method and args - or do it in one request with a larger key) and separate instance state from the instance. IMHO that's inefficient, memory leaking and error prone. Kind regards robert
on 26.01.2006 15:47
On Jan 26, 2006, at 7:08 AM, Robert Klemme wrote: > if x > 10 > x += @c.doh(quork, @a) > else > x - 2 > end > x > end > > memoize :calculate_foo > end This example runs as written with the module discussed in this thread. It requires multiple changes to work with the current memoize.rb library. > you add > a level of lookup (first object, then method and args - or do it in > one > request with a larger key) and separate instance state from the > instance. > IMHO that's inefficient, memory leaking and error prone. I understand know. You're just against this feature. Fair enough. Thanks for taking the time to explain it to me. James Edward Gray II