I am heavily confused with the topic when thinking `self` and `local scope` together. It seems they worked in parallel. To understand the same I tried the below code one with `self` : >> class Foo >> puts "#{self}" >> class Bar >> puts "#{self}" >> end >> def show >> puts "#{self}" >> end >> end Foo Foo::Bar => nil >> foo = Foo.new => #<Foo:0x21f9ed0> >> foo.show #<Foo:0x21f9ed0> => nil >> And the other with `local scope` as below: >> class Foo >> a = 5 >> class Bar >> a=2 >> def show >> a=11 >> p "show :: #{a}" >> end >> p "Bar :: #{a}" >> end >> p "Foo :: #{a}" >> end "Bar :: 2" "Foo :: 5" => "Foo :: 5" >> bar = Foo::Bar.new => #<Foo::Bar:0x1f8d650> >> bar.show "show :: 11" => "show :: 11" >> But still not clear to me. Could anyone help me a solid example which would prove/show - if they operate parallel or not?
on 2013-03-01 20:39
on 2013-03-01 20:50
I am asking can it be seen with an example where `self` would change but in the same local scope and vice-versa. Thanks
on 2013-03-01 21:00
self and the "local scope" are the same and they only change when you do something like instance_eval or other stuff like Threads
on 2013-03-01 21:44
Just to help experts out there I am clearing my statement once again here: "I am trying to understand if self can be changed without entering to a new local scope which is not the case in my example,where self has been changed in every local scope. And also to see the fixed self when local scope changing."
on 2013-03-01 22:58
"Kumar R.": "YAATSGFY" FYI: Kumar R. is another psuedonym for Love U Ruby, Arup Rakshit, Xavier R., Tukai Patra and possibly others. He has proven to be a troll and a help vampire. http://whatismyipaddress.com/trace-email I used the website to determine the ip address originating from all of the above user email accounts and it was one and the same: Source: The source host name is "eq4.andreas-s.net" and the source IP address is 188.40.52.210. Geo-Location Information Country Germany State/Region City Latitude 51 Longitude 9 Area Code I hope this information helps others here to determine when a user becomes a nuisance and tries to hide his/her identity behind alternate user names. I long for the old days when usenet users' posts were issued under their real names, and the discourse contained more useful information. Since Jan. 1, 2013, the following are the message counts for this same user: 172 - Love U Ruby 137 - Arup Rakshit 38 - Xavier R. 11 - Tukai Patra 8 - Kumar R. =========== 366 messages Nuff said.
on 2013-03-02 00:47
On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Hans Mackowiak <lists@ruby-forum.com> wrote: > self and the "local scope" are the same Certainly not. self is an object reference which cannot be changed by the user. A scope is something that holds named object references (local variables). self can change - on method entry - when opening a class or module body - inside a block when executed via #instance_eval, #instance_exec, #class_eval or #module_eval Local scope changes - on method entry - inside blocks - inside class and module bodies irb(main):001:0> def f(x=0) irb(main):002:1> p self, local_variables.sort irb(main):003:1> 1.times do |y| irb(main):004:2* p self, local_variables.sort irb(main):005:2> end irb(main):006:1> p self, local_variables.sort irb(main):007:1> end => nil irb(main):008:0> f main [:x] main [:x, :y] main [:x] => [main, [:x]] > and they only change when you do something like instance_eval Correct. > or other stuff like Threads Wrong for self. irb(main):015:0* p self main => main irb(main):016:0> Thread.new { p self }.join main => #<Thread:0x802a8430 dead> Kind regards robert
on 2013-03-02 00:55
On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 3:57 PM, S.D <s.d@comcast.net> wrote: > "Kumar R.": "YAATSGFY" This isn't in my acronym decoder. What is YAATSGFY? > FYI: Kumar R. is another psuedonym for Love U Ruby, Arup Rakshit, Xavier R., Tukai Patra and possibly others. It does seem rather curious and suspicious that someone would use so many different names. OTOH, being a plural, I have a few headmates. They don't interact here, though.
on 2013-03-02 08:21
On Mar 1, 2013, at 13:57 , "S.D" <s.d@comcast.net> wrote: > > Geo-Location Information > Country Germany > State/Region > City > Latitude 51 > Longitude 9 > Area Code Huh... Maybe it IS Ilias! Any chance you can do an old mail from ilias to see how much it matches?
on 2013-03-02 08:32
Ryan Davis wrote in post #1099811: > On Mar 1, 2013, at 13:57 , "S.D" <s.d@comcast.net> wrote: > >> >> Geo-Location Information >> Country Germany >> State/Region >> City >> Latitude 51 >> Longitude 9 >> Area Code > > Huh... Maybe it IS Ilias! Any chance you can do an old mail from ilias > to see how much it matches? please start a new thread to discuss such stupid things. I am getting un-wanted emails in my inbox. You have too much time to compare such things,do it as you like.I do have no problem. But not here. I started this thread to get and also give some valuable information to other people who comes here to resolve their queries. I am done. Not here do such unwanted talk please.
on 2013-03-02 15:42
Le samedi 02 mars 2013 à 06:57 +0900, S.D a écrit : > "Kumar R.": "YAATSGFY" > > FYI: Kumar R. is another psuedonym for Love U Ruby, Arup Rakshit, Xavier R., Tukai Patra and possibly others. > He has proven to be a troll and a help vampire. > The pseudonym "chandan mallik" also come from the same IP address !
on 2013-03-02 15:49
Michel wrote in post #1099829: > Le samedi 02 mars 2013 à 06:57 +0900, S.D a écrit : > >> "Kumar R.": "YAATSGFY" >> >> FYI: Kumar R. is another psuedonym for Love U Ruby, Arup Rakshit, Xavier R., > Tukai Patra and possibly others. >> He has proven to be a troll and a help vampire. >> > > > The pseudonym "chandan mallik" also come from the same IP address ! See do one thing. Mention the same on his post, that he and me and bla bla all are same. Okay , one thing I am eager to know is there any rule that only one user from a single country can do post here. Too stupid you are really. If you want to start more talk on this, please do select one of his post, and tell the same stupid non sense comment that he and me is same. and wait for the reply, anyway this way I can be also able to prove all are different. Nice caught you guys has. Don't choose the path that STUPID S.D has shown above. And I am reminding you one more thing not to put such non-sense comment here in my thread. Start a new one.
on 2013-03-02 15:53
Love U Ruby, aka Kumar R, Give it up. You must think the entire world is stupid if you think you can get away with posting under multiple aliases and NOT have people point it out so others that aren't in the know don't get caught up on your trolling. You do realize that eventually the list administrators will ban all your known names and addresses right? I mean, you can't really be THAT stupid not to realize that.
on 2013-03-02 15:58
D. Deryl Downey wrote in post #1099832: > Love U Ruby, aka Kumar R, > > Give it up. You must think the entire world is stupid if you think you > can > get away with posting under multiple aliases and NOT have people point What I just asked above please do that first. and wait to get reply from him/her. Till then no talk please. If you bad,I can always. And here I asked one questions which is purely on-topic. So I didn't do anything bad. Still you guys horribly insulting me. making compare myself with others. I am really shocked. :(
on 2013-03-02 16:00
Michel wrote in post #1099829:
> The pseudonym "chandan mallik" also come from the same IP address !
ruby-forum.com has 188.40.52.210 so mails sent from ruby-forum will
probably have this IP-address in the header.
on 2013-03-02 16:05
Bullshit you're shocked. You're a troll, and exposed troll at that, and you think everyone is stupid enough to just let you waste OUR time and effort, and waste this resource for everyone else. You choke email boxes with stupidity and expect people NOT to take it to you face to face? LOL you're funny
on 2013-03-02 16:29
Le samedi 02 mars 2013 à 23:41 +0900, Michel a écrit : > Le samedi 02 mars 2013 à 06:57 +0900, S.D a écrit : > > > "Kumar R.": "YAATSGFY" > > > > FYI: Kumar R. is another psuedonym for Love U Ruby, Arup Rakshit, Xavier R., Tukai Patra and possibly others. > > He has proven to be a troll and a help vampire. > > > > > The pseudonym "chandan mallik" also come from the same IP address ! And so does the pseudonym "shaji n." !!
on 2013-03-02 16:32
Hey, I am repeatedly saying that not to do this on my thread. But you didn't hear me. Why you are not updating on their posts the same? Thanks.
on 2013-03-02 16:44
Because the 'they' is really 'you', so using this thread or 'their' thread targets the same person. YOU!
on 2013-03-02 17:12
On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 4:43 PM, D. Deryl Downey <me@daviddwdowney.com> wrote: > Because the 'they' is really 'you', so using this thread or 'their' thread > targets the same person. YOU! Folks, please stop it. I don't know whether there is one or multiple persons behind these pseudonyms but I do know that you don't get rid of trolls that way. Cheers robert
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