Forum: IronRuby Contributions

Hi there

I would love to contribute to this open source project. Ive been 
learning
Ruby for the last year, and Ive fallen in love with the language. Its 
not
in my way, its fun and productive.

Ive been a .NET developer for too many years, and it was really fun to
experience such a great language as Ruby outside the .NET world.
Nevertheless, I would love to be able to run Ruby upon the .NET runtime,
especially in my projects at work. For me to be able to use it in real 
world
projects, it has to become faster and more stable. My employer is a big 
fan
of standardization and well known solutions. They wouldnt go for 
anything
except Java or .NET. Im sure they dont mind what language we use, but 
they
do care about the platform.

How can I help? Are the Contribution ideas still valid?
http://github.com/ironruby/ironruby/wiki/Contribution-Ideas

When things ended as they did, and Microsoft stopped to support the 
Iron*
languages, I was really happy how they made the handover to the 
community.
With Miguel and his team in charge, Im sure this is going to end well. I
believe there are many .NET developers out there that would love to be 
able
to run Ruby code in .NET.

Hope to hear from you soon!
--
Gran Hansen
Aspiring Software Craftsman
Microsoft Regional Director

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http://goeran.no
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Hi Gran,
Good to see your interest.

The Wiki might be a bit out of date. Some areas that need work and 
nobody's working on them afaik (if anyone works on it, speak up) are

-          Complex and Rational numbers (new to 1.9): to make stuff work 
I took 1.8 implementations and loaded them to emulate builtin Complex 
and Rational classes. This is a big hack. We need to implement these 
classes in C# in the standard libraries. To support .NET interop the 
implementation should also convert to the existing Complex type on the 
platform. This is a good task for someone who likes hacking numbers.

-          Related one: although BigDecimal class is implemented it 
feels like it needs some perf improvements - I noticed some specs are 
running quite slower than MRI. There are also some failing specs in 
BigDecimal (and BigNum) that would be good to fix so that we have fully 
compatible implementation.

-          If you are into cryptography one big missing piece is OpenSSL 
implementation. There might be pieces that you can share with 
IronPython's ssl library implementation.

-          Then there is bunch of misc failing specs that need to be 
fixed. One big area is ARGF but there are many others as well. See 
External.LCA_RESTRICTED\Languages\IronRuby\mspec\ironruby-tags-19.

-          If you were more interested in compiler and runtime you can 
look into implementing nested method parameters and optional block 
parameters. This is quite tricky though you need to really understand 
how the runtime works to implement it correctly.

-          VS integration always needs improvements. The VS is quite 
complex environment so it takes a while to learn how it works.

Then there is FFI implementation going on - maybe it needs some help?

Let me know if you have any questions.

Thanks,
Tomas

From: ironruby-core-bounces@rubyforge.org 
[mailto:ironruby-core-bounces@rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Gran Hansen
Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2010 12:31 AM
To: IronRuby Group
Subject: [Ironruby-core] Contributions


Hi there

I would love to contribute to this open source project. I've been 
learning Ruby for the last year, and I've fallen in love with the 
language. It's not in my way, it's fun and productive.

I've been a .NET developer for too many years, and it was really fun to 
experience such a great language as Ruby outside the .NET world. 
Nevertheless, I would love to be able to run Ruby upon the .NET runtime, 
especially in my projects at work. For me to be able to use it in real 
world projects, it has to become faster and more stable. My employer is 
a big fan of standardization and well known solutions. They wouldn't go 
for anything except Java or .NET. I'm sure they don't mind what language 
we use, but they do care about the platform.

How can I help? Are the Contribution ideas still valid? 
http://github.com/ironruby/ironruby/wiki/Contribution-Ideas

When things ended as they did, and Microsoft stopped to support the 
Iron* languages, I was really happy how they made the handover to the 
community. With Miguel and his team in charge, I'm sure this is going to 
end well. I believe there are many .NET developers out there that would 
love to be able to run Ruby code in .NET.

Hope to hear from you soon!
--
Gran Hansen
Aspiring Software Craftsman
Microsoft Regional Director

http://twitter.com/goeran
http://goeran.no
mail@goeran.no<mailto:mail@goeran.no>
+47 452 39 113

>
> -          If you are into cryptography one big missing piece is OpenSSL
> implementation. There might be pieces that you can share with IronPython's
> ssl library implementation.
>

Not sure whether this exists or not, or whether it would even work.  But 
it
might be a good idea if there was a "Iron.Common" library that contained
functionality that was common across all Iron* projects.

There is - it's called the DLR :)

Microsoft.Dynamic.dll is the right place for shared code.

Tomas

Tomas,


Thanks for getting back at me. I think it would be wise to start with
something that I know. Ive written a plugin for VS2010 before, and feel
quite comfortable doing that, even though its a large and complex
environment.


Ill check out the IronRuby VS integration as it is.


What I like about programming Ruby Netbeans and RubyMine is that they 
have a
built in test runner for RSpec. Is there an RSpec test runner for VS and
IronRuby? If not, that would be a fun task to start with :)



Gran

On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 6:24 PM, Tomas Matousek <
Tomas.Matousek@microsoft.com> wrote:

> took 1.8 implementations and loaded them to emulate builtin Complex and
>
> parameters. This is quite tricky though you need to really understand how
>
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> Ruby for the last year, and Ive fallen in love with the language. Its not
>
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Microsoft Regional Director & MVP

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Hello Tomas,
   I would like to continue my work with OpenSSL. I will re-fork 
IronRuby
and update my progress here.

Best,
-Jirapong

On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 11:24 PM, Tomas Matousek <

I can't find an integrated VS test runner for RSpec. Maybe I didn't look
hard enough? But it seems to me that it's missing.

Is this something that would be useful? If so, do you have any ideas for
implementation? I think it would be wise to go for the low hanging fruit 
in
the first version. For instance just make a Command in VS, and execute 
ir
spec_file.rb and output it in the Output window in Visual Studio. When 
it's
a command, it's possible to assign a keyboard shortcut to execute the 
specs.

Gran



On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Gran Hansen <mail@goeran.no> wrote:

>
> Tomas.Matousek@microsoft.com> wrote:
>> -          Complex and Rational numbers (new to 1.9): to make stuff work
>> implementation.
>> look into implementing nested method parameters and optional block
>>
>>
>> I would love to contribute to this open source project. Ive been learning
>> do care about the platform.
>> Hope to hear from you soon!
>>
> Aspiring Software Craftsman
> Microsoft Regional Director & MVP
>
>
> http://twitter.com/goeran
> http://goeran.no
> mail@goeran.no
> +47 452 39 113
>



--
Gran Hansen
Aspiring Software Craftsman
Microsoft Regional Director & MVP

http://twitter.com/goeran
http://goeran.no
mail@goeran.no
+47 452 39 113

There may be a plugin for Gallio not sure...

On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Gran Hansen <mail@goeran.no> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Gran Hansen <mail@goeran.no> wrote:
>> What I like about programming Ruby Netbeans and RubyMine is that they have
>>> Hi Gran,
>>> Rational classes. This is a big hack. We need to implement these classes in
>>> - If you are into cryptography one big missing piece is OpenSSL
>>> the runtime works to implement it correctly.
>>> Let me know if you have any questions.
>>> [mailto:ironruby-core-bounces@rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Gran Hansen
>>> Its not in my way, its fun and productive.
>>> How can I help? Are the Contribution ideas still
>>> --
>>> Ironruby-core mailing list
>>
> Microsoft Regional Director & MVP
>
>



--
Michael Letterle
IronRuby MVP
http://blog.prokrams.com

Jirapong,

What are your thoughts on wrapping the Bouncy Castle Crypto APIs:
http://www.bouncycastle.org/

I think this is what JRuby does, but rather than distributing it as part 
of
JRuby, they release it a a gem (jruby-ssl, I believe) and encourgae you 
to
install it.

--
Will Green
http://hotgazpacho.org/

Hello Will,
  Thank you for the link. I will check it out. My primary purpose/need 
for OpenSSL is to make it work for Rails (done) and RubyGems over SSL 
(in progress). so, In area any area of build in OpenSSL related to 
RubyGems will get implement first. I'm not sure if Rubygems can use 
jruby-ssl without modify the source.

Best,
-Jirapong